[INDOLOGY] Devanagari v and b in manuscripts from Kashmir

Harry Spier vasishtha.spier at gmail.com
Sat Mar 25 11:53:47 UTC 2023


Hi Madhav,
There was a fascinating discussion of this in Feb. 1999 (24 years ago!) in
which you played a prominent part. The thread started as "A simple question
for sanskritists
https://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology/1999-February/015767.html
and continued as "On 'patra/pattra' again"
https://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology/1999-February/015789.html

Harry Spier

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 12:27 AM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:

> Hello Harry,
>
>      Many cases like *patra/pattra *are instances of optional doubling of
> consonants in certain environments. To the extent, this doubling is
> optional, a dictionary may need to make a choice of which alternative to
> list.  The prevalence of doubling or lack of it is also sometimes related
> to the regional or other preferences. For example, more doubling is common
> in the tradition of the Śukla-Yajurveda, so much so that the Nirnaya Sagara
> Press needed special fonts to print the pothi of Śukla-Yajurveda.
>
> Madhav
>
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
> Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India
>
> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 8:39 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
>> Point taken Dominik. You wrote:
>>
>>>  One has *two* files.  The first is the diplomatic transcription
>>> (karmma, vindu, adhiṣṭāna).  The second is whatever one wants it to be, but
>>> it's interpretative or normalized.
>>>
>>
>> I think another reason, in addition to all the reasons you gave for what
>> you suggest. I.e.  "first is the diplomatic transcription"  and only
>> then to create a "normalized" file, is that deciding whats normal is
>> sometimes a judgement call . There may be more than one norm. For example:
>> Monier-Williams dictionary has pattra and chattra but Apte's dictionary
>> has patra and chatra .
>>
>> Harry Spier
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
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