[INDOLOGY] iti in Sanskrit

Sun Nov 13 05:13:07 UTC 2022

The Telugu equivalent of eNRu , ani and its function in contemporary Telugu
is studied by late Prof. Chekuri Rama Rao , which I know from his Telugu
essay, " Telugu lo ani chese pani " = work ani does in Telugu / function of
ani in Telugu, probably A Telugu version of a portion of his PhD
dissertation submitted to University of Pennsylvania on  " Nominalization
in Telugu Syntax" .

ani is the past nonfinite form (ktvaarthaka form, to use the Sanskrit term,
) of the verb anu = say. (Same is the case with  eNRu    of Tamil)

As such, the 'productivity' is of the verb anu =say , not of the form ani
which is the expression comparable to iti. ( Same goes with Tamil  eNRu   )

ani is a derivative of a verb root whereas iti is avyaya ,  derivation or
root  of which within Sanskrit is not clear.

Use of iti in vyaakhyaana granthas as in the ending of the expression of
the text, commentary of which follows iti

its use in usages such as ityaadayah at the end of lists,

and more such usages of iti in Sanskrit don't seem to have Dravidian
equivalents.

On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 2:24 AM George L. HART via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

> I am sure many have noted that in Tamil, the word eṉ, which has
> equivalents in other Dravidian languages (an in Telugu, for example), is
> far more productive than Sanskrit iti. It occurs in various forms —
> adjective (eṉṉum), adverb (eṉṟu), noun (eṉpatu), finite verb (e.g.
> eṉkiṟārkaḷ), while in Sanskrit iti is only adverbial. It would be
> interesting to analyze the uses of eṉ in Sangam literature — I’m not sure
> anyone has done this. Of course, the use of this construction could be an
> areal phenomenon — it is not necessarily true that its presence in early
> Sanskrit is due to Dravidian, though I think it is highly likely, given its
> richness in Dravidian languages. George Hart
>
> On Nov 12, 2022, at 1:08 PM, Tieken, H.J.H. (Herman) via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
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> I do not know if the question was about *iti *as an areal phenomenon. If
> so, see F.B.J. Kuiper, "The Genesis of a Linguistic Area", IIJ 1968, where,
> if I remember well, he compares Skt *iti* with Tamil *eṉṟu*.
> Herman
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> *Onderwerp:* Re: [INDOLOGY] iti in Sanskrit
>
> If I remember correctly, the possibility of the "iti" constructions being
> an areal phenomena have been discussed  for many decades. The best person
> to provide information regarding this topic may be Hans Hock. I will see if
> I can locate any of these older publications.
>
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
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> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 6:28 AM Olivelle, Joseph P via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
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> See the many explanations of ‘iti’ in Gary Tubb and Emery Boose’s book
> “Scholastic Sanskrit”.
>
> Patrick
>
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> > On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:10 AM, Brendan S. Gillon, Prof. via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
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> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > I am wondering if any of you know of articles on the use of `iti' in
> > Sanskrit.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Brendan
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