[INDOLOGY] History of the Konkani-speaking areas of western India
Christophe Vielle
christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be
Thu Dec 8 14:41:41 UTC 2022
Several references where provided in a November 2004 thread:
* "Gaudasaraswatha" brahmins speaking Konkani <https://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology/2004-November/028794.html> Madhav Deshpande
* "Gaudasaraswatha" brahmins speaking Konkani <https://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology/2004-November/028800.html> Christophe Vielle
* "Gaudasaraswatha" brahmins speaking Konkani <https://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology/2004-November/028803.html> Christophe Vielle
* "Gaudasaraswatha" brahmins speaking Konkani <https://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology/2004-November/028801.html> jkirk
* "Gaudasaraswatha" brahmins speaking Konkani <https://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology/2004-November/028804.html> Madhav Deshpande
* "Gaudasaraswatha" brahmins speaking Konkani <https://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology/2004-November/028802.html> Frank Conlon
* "Gaudasaraswatha" brahmins speaking Konkani <https://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology/2004-November/028808.html> NAYAK Anand
* "Gaudasaraswatha" brahmins speaking Konkani <https://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology/2004-November/028798.html> Madhav Deshpande
* "Gaudasaraswatha" brahmins speaking Konkani <https://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology/2004-November/028796.html> Frank Conlon
e.g. Frank Conlon, A Caste in a Changing World: The Chitrapur Saraswat Brahmins, 1977, University of California Press; Narendra Wagle, "The History and Social Organization of the Gauda Sarasvata Brahmanas of the West Coast of India," Journal of Indian History, vol. 4, 1970: 8-25. 295-333.
Le 8 déc. 2022 à 14:50, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info<mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> a écrit :
Dear John,
I have attached an article of mine that may be of interest to you. You may also find some interesting material in Stephen Levitt's work on the Sahyādrikhaṇḍa:
https://www.worldcat.org/title/patityagramanirnaya-a-puranic-history-of-some-brahman-communities-includes-introduction-the-text-of-patityagramanirnaya-sahyadrikhanda-skandapurana-translation-and-critical-apparatus/oclc/981898691<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldcat.org%2Ftitle%2Fpatityagramanirnaya-a-puranic-history-of-some-brahman-communities-includes-introduction-the-text-of-patityagramanirnaya-sahyadrikhanda-skandapurana-translation-and-critical-apparatus%2Foclc%2F981898691&data=05%7C01%7Cchristophe.vielle%40uclouvain.be%7Cef9da0a3bfa645f3e78a08dad92363c0%7C7ab090d4fa2e4ecfbc7c4127b4d582ec%7C0%7C0%7C638061043510390840%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nTtirGpXz%2FbmK87fK3A9uvFdlIvxgHcSXUa9BrOXpdo%3D&reserved=0>
Also Urmila Patil's dissertation [2008] from the University of Texas deals with the accounts of communities in Goa and the Konkan region.
Best wishes,
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India
[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 4:23 AM John Peterson <jpeterson at isfas.uni-kiel.de<mailto:jpeterson at isfas.uni-kiel.de>> wrote:
Sorry if some of you get this twice - my first attempt does not appear to have been successful. John
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Dear colleagues,
I am looking for a good historical treatment of those parts of western India where large numbers of Konkani speakers are found. While this obviously includes Goa, I am also interested in Konkani speakers further to the north in Maharashtra but also to the east of Goa and especially to the south into Karnataka (and also Cochin, but that is not my priority right now).
This does not have to be a specialized book on these regions alone, but what I am especially interested in is an account of when large numbers of Konkani speakers entered these southern regions - preferably already before the arrival of the Portuguese, when many were forced to flee Goa. Also, any information on Dravidian speakers in Goa (and related issues) would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry for the very basic question, but I am not a historian and all attempts so far find any relevant information have turned up nothing. I know most older accounts do not care much about the languages people spoke, but also any references to other groups (e.g., "Brahmans from the north" or something like that which may allude to Konkani speakers) from these areas would also be of help. Many thanks!
Best,
John
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