[INDOLOGY] CORRECTION: List of paninian equivalents of western grammatical terms for sanskrit

[Satyanad Kichenassamy]

Two small points, if I may.

First, what seems to be referred to here as "Western" grammar, as 
completely unrelated to "Paninean grammar" should be defined. The 
grammars we use for European languages were heavily influenced by the 
discovery of Sanskrit grammar and the ensuing developement of IE 
studies. This is apparent when reading many twentieth-century Greek and 
Latin grammars. I would recommend avoiding the word "Western" in this 
context, or many others for that matter, if one wants to be precise. 
When we speak of "tone sa.mdhi" in Chinese, is this phrase 
understandable in terms of a putative "Western grammar" that would not 
include borrowings from Sanskrit?

Second, as Jan Houben pointed out, there is a trend in some circles to 
eliminate Sanskrit terms and concepts, usually without adequate 
discussion, or creation of new terms or concepts. Those who are 
interested in an explanation on simple examples of how Paninean grammar 
actually works may want to look up:

Pierre-Sylvain Filliozat, "Grammaire sanscrite pâninéenne", Paris: 
Picard, 1988.

This book does not seem to be available electronically.

Grammar as a (contemporary) science (as opposed to an art -- a tekhnè) 
owes much of its existence to Sanskrit. Fédérique Ildefonse argues that 
grammar in Greek as a discipline emerged rather late

Best,

     Satyanad Kichenassamy

Le 06/09/2024 à 02:10, Harry Spier via INDOLOGY a écrit :
> I meant to write:
>
> Jan Houben wrote:
> Historically, introductions to Sanskrit since the nineteenth century are
> rather characterized by gradually filtering out Sanskrit grammatical terms
>
> and
> Hans Hock wrote:
>
>> , as long as we don’t expect anything more than corresponding terms for
>> case marking there should be no problem
>>
> Looking at the table of contents to Apte's "Student's Guide to Sanskrit
> Composition (third edition 1890)"  only western grammatical terms are used.
> Does that mean that the grammar of sanskrit sentences can be correctly
> described using western grammatical terms, but it's just that those western
> grammatical terms don't correspond to Indian grammatical terms for sanskrit.
>
> Link to the ninth edition (reprint of third edition?)
> https://archive.org/download/StudentsGuideToSanskritComposition-VsApte1925/StudentsGuideToSanskritComposition-VsApte1925.pdf
>
> Harry Spier
>
>
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