[INDOLOGY] Tamil initial vowels with vowel signs
Jan Kučera
jan.kucera at matfyz.cz
Thu May 19 18:37:33 UTC 2022
Thank you Jean-Luc, that is helpful.
It is especially interesting that the vowels use a ring form of pulli in contrast with the dot pulli on consonants!
Thanks,
Jan
-----Original Message-----
From: Jean-Luc Chevillard <jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 6:08 PM
To: Jan Kučera <jan.kucera at matfyz.cz>; indology at list.indology.info
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Tamil initial vowels with vowel signs
Dear Jan,
you might be interested in the example which I include as an attachment.
You can see the puḷḷi on initial vowel in the commentary to the Naṉṉūl cūttiram which reads
தொல்லை வடிவின வெல்லா வெழுத்துமாண்
டெய்து மெகர வொகரமெய் புள்ளி
[tollai vaṭiviṉa vellā veḻuttumāṇ
ṭeytu mekara vokaramey puḷḷi]
I can provide you with more examples if you wish, including from Palm leaf MSS
All the best
அன்புடன்
-- Jean-Luc
https://htl.cnrs.fr/equipe/jl-chevillard/
On 19/05/2022 15:24, Jan Kučera wrote:
> Thank you both!
>
> Yes an alternative spelling of long vowels, such as அ+ாinstead of ஆ
> would be an example. Other situations I could envision why that would
> happen could be to express even-longer-than-long vowels, like ஆ+ா, or
> alternative spellings of diphthongs or diphthongs that do not exist
> Tamil. I have not seen these myself but wanted to check with others.
>
> In fact I am interested in any cases where the initial vowel would
> take any mark - how about pulli on vowels?
>
> I am imagining not everyone is adhering to the Tolkāppiyam rules, be
> it either modern usage, transliteration of other languages, or
> manipravalam texts.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jan
>
> *From:*INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info> *On Behalf Of
> *a.murugaiyan
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2022 1:52 PM
> *To:* indology at list.indology.info
> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Tamil initial vowels with vowel signs
>
> Dear Jan,
>
> Do you meanஅ+ா instead of ஆ at the initial position?
>
> Best regards.
> A. Murugaiyan
>
> Le 19/05/2022 à 12:22, Jan Kučera a écrit :
>
> Dear all,
>
> has anyone come across a Tamil orthography where a vowel sign would
> be attached to an initial vowel, presumably most likely it would be
> A or AA, e.g. ஆா?
>
> Thank you and best regards,
>
> Jan
>
>
>
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