[INDOLOGY] Tamil initial vowels with vowel signs

Jean-Luc Chevillard jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr
Thu May 19 17:24:05 UTC 2022


Dear Jan,

since the mailing list does not seem to reject attachments,
I now include an example from a palm leaf MS, which belongs to the 
Pondicherry EFEO collection.

See the line 6, after the word வரலாறு

Bet wishes

அன்புடன்

-- Jean-Luc

https://htl.cnrs.fr/equipe/jl-chevillard/


On 19/05/2022 19:07, Jean-Luc Chevillard wrote:
> Dear Jan,
> 
> you might be interested in the example which I include as an attachment.
> 
> You can see the puḷḷi on initial vowel in the commentary to the Naṉṉūl 
> cūttiram which reads
> 
> தொல்லை வடிவின வெல்லா வெழுத்துமாண்
> டெய்து மெகர வொகரமெய் புள்ளி
> 
> [tollai vaṭiviṉa vellā veḻuttumāṇ
> ṭeytu mekara vokaramey puḷḷi]
> 
> I can provide you with more examples if you wish, including from Palm 
> leaf MSS
> 
> All the best
> 
> அன்புடன்
> 
> -- Jean-Luc
> 
> https://htl.cnrs.fr/equipe/jl-chevillard/
> 
> 
> On 19/05/2022 15:24, Jan Kučera wrote:
>> Thank you both!
>>
>> Yes an alternative spelling of long vowels, such as அ+ாinstead of ஆ 
>> would be an example. Other situations I could envision why that would 
>> happen could be to express even-longer-than-long vowels, like ஆ+ா, or 
>> alternative spellings of diphthongs or diphthongs that do not exist 
>> Tamil. I have not seen these myself but wanted to check with others.
>>
>> In fact I am interested in any cases where the initial vowel would 
>> take any mark - how about pulli on vowels?
>>
>> I am imagining not everyone is adhering to the Tolkāppiyam rules, be 
>> it either modern usage, transliteration of other languages, or 
>> manipravalam texts.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> *From:*INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info> *On Behalf Of 
>> *a.murugaiyan
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2022 1:52 PM
>> *To:* indology at list.indology.info
>> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Tamil initial vowels with vowel signs
>>
>> Dear Jan,
>>
>> Do you meanஅ+ா  instead of ஆ at the initial position?
>>
>> Best regards.
>> A. Murugaiyan
>>
>> Le 19/05/2022 à 12:22, Jan Kučera a écrit :
>>
>>     Dear all,
>>
>>     has anyone come across a Tamil orthography where a vowel sign would
>>     be attached to an initial vowel, presumably most likely it would be
>>     A or AA, e.g. ஆா?
>>
>>     Thank you and best regards,
>>
>>     Jan
>>
>>
>>
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