[INDOLOGY] Sunya

[Nagaraj Paturi]

Google translator gives

'You have the excellence said by the numbers of the ages of four kinds:
Red-eyed black, Black-eyed white'

for

Tu as l'excellence dite par les nombres des âges de quatre sortes :

Noir aux yeux rouges, Blanc aux yeux noirs


On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 12:36 AM rajam via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

> Exactly!
>
> The part … 'Tu as l'excellence dite par les nombres des âges de quatre
> sortes :
> Noir aux yeux rouges, Blanc aux yeux noirs ‘ is crucial for understanding
> ‘sūnya’ as a part of mathematical counting.
>
> In Tamil, it goes like this:
>
> … *எண்* நவிற்றும் சிறப்பினை
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> rajam
>
>
> On Jul 25, 2022, at 9:48 PM, Anurupa Naik <anurupa.n at ifpindia.org> wrote:
>
> If I'm not mistaken, you're referring to this part from Prof Gros' French
> translation of *Paripatal* published by the French Institute:
>
> 75 Sans souffrir deux ombres, les trois fois sept mondes
> C'est Toi qui les protèges sous une ombre unique.
> Le néant, le quart, la moitié, un
> Deux, trois, quatre, cinq
> Six, sept, huit, neuf :
> 80 Tu as l'excellence dite par les nombres des âges de quatre sortes :
> Noir aux yeux rouges, Blanc aux yeux noirs [...]
>
> *(Le Paripāṭal. Texte tamoul*. Introduction, traduction et notes par
> François Gros, PIFI n°35, IFP, 1968, p. 16)
> Thank you,
> Anurupa
> IFP
>
> On 26-07-2022 02:52, rajam via INDOLOGY wrote:
>
>
> For whatever its worth … I’m tempted to provide some information from the
> Tamil paripāṭal (பரிபாடல் : 3) where I see a mathematical counting
> starting from ’sūnya’ / ‘zero’.
>
> This poem, paripāṭal (பரிபாடல் : 3), is dedicated to tirumāl (திருமால்,
> Vishnu).
>
> Here, the numbers are counted as: pāḻ (பாழ், meaning ’nothing
> solid/concrete/meaningful…’), kāl (கால், one quarter, 1/4),  pāku (பாகு,
> one half, 1/2), oṉṟu (ஒன்று, one), iraṇṭu (இரண்டு, two), mūṉṟu (மூன்று,
> three), nāṉku (நான்கு, four), aiṉtu (ஐந்து, five), āṟu (ஆறு, six), ēḻu (ஏழு,
> seven), eṭṭu (எட்டு, eight), toṇṭu (தொண்டு, nine).
>
> பாழ் என, கால் என, பாகு என, ஒன்று என,
> இரண்டு என, மூன்று என, நான்கு என, ஐந்து என,
> ஆறு என, ஏழு என, எட்டு என, தொண்டு என,
> நால்வகை ஊழி எண் நவிற்றும் சிறப்பினை …
>
> Now, I request our dear colleague Jean-Luc Chevillard for a translation
> from Gros for this part of the Paripadal poem.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> rajam
>
>
> On Jul 25, 2022, at 9:19 AM, alakendu das via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
> Dr.Dahejia,
> With due regards, I mention the following points on the issue of "Sunnya"
> 1) "Sunnyata" of Mahayana Buddhism is a purely philosophical concept
> developed by Asanga and his brother BasuBandhu, embodying the principal of
> "ChatushKotiBinirmuktwa"..
> 2) In the world of Mathematics,probably ,an ancient Indian text dating
> back to 5th CE B.C, named as "Lokabibhaga" displayed use of decimal system
> ( including aero) .I would be grateful if any further reference on this
> text can be furnished.
> 3) AryaBhatta's name is  associated with the concept of zero" with
> respect,although there is a view that Maya civilization of Central America
> introduced the concept of zero.
>
> Would like to be enlightened more on this.
> Regards
> Alakendu Das.
>
>
>
> Sent from RediffmailNG on Android
>
>
>
>
> From: Harsha Dehejia via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>
> Sent: Sun, 24 Jul 2022 16:20:43 GMT+0530
> To: Indology List <indology at list.indology.info>
> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sunya
>
> Friends:
>
> Is there any evidence that the sunya of mathematics arose out of the
> sunyata of Mahayana Buddhism?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Hrtsha
> Harsha V. Dehejia
>
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