[INDOLOGY] Sunya

[rajam]

Exactly! 

The part … 'Tu as l'excellence dite par les nombres des âges de quatre sortes :
Noir aux yeux rouges, Blanc aux yeux noirs ‘ is crucial for understanding ‘sūnya’ as a part of mathematical counting. 

In Tamil, it goes like this: 

… எண் நவிற்றும் சிறப்பினை 

Thanks and Regards,
rajam 


> On Jul 25, 2022, at 9:48 PM, Anurupa Naik <anurupa.n at ifpindia.org> wrote:
> 
> If I'm not mistaken, you're referring to this part from Prof Gros' French translation of Paripatal published by the French Institute:
> 
> 75 Sans souffrir deux ombres, les trois fois sept mondes
> C'est Toi qui les protèges sous une ombre unique.
> Le néant, le quart, la moitié, un
> Deux, trois, quatre, cinq
> Six, sept, huit, neuf :
> 80 Tu as l'excellence dite par les nombres des âges de quatre sortes :
> Noir aux yeux rouges, Blanc aux yeux noirs [...]
> (Le Paripāṭal. Texte tamoul. Introduction, traduction et notes par François Gros, PIFI n°35, IFP, 1968, p. 16)
> 
> Thank you,
> Anurupa
> IFP
> 
> On 26-07-2022 02:52, rajam via INDOLOGY wrote:
>> 
>> For whatever its worth … I’m tempted to provide some information from the Tamil paripāṭal (பரிபாடல் : 3) where I see a mathematical counting starting from ’sūnya’ / ‘zero’. 
>> 
>> This poem, paripāṭal (பரிபாடல் : 3), is dedicated to tirumāl (திருமால், Vishnu).
>> 
>> Here, the numbers are counted as: pāḻ (பாழ், meaning ’nothing solid/concrete/meaningful…’), kāl (கால், one quarter, 1/4),  pāku (பாகு, one half, 1/2), oṉṟu (ஒன்று, one), iraṇṭu (இரண்டு, two), mūṉṟu (மூன்று, three), nāṉku (நான்கு, four), aiṉtu (ஐந்து, five), āṟu (ஆறு, six), ēḻu (ஏழு, seven), eṭṭu (எட்டு, eight), toṇṭu (தொண்டு, nine).
>> 
>> பாழ் என, கால் என, பாகு என, ஒன்று என, 
>> இரண்டு என, மூன்று என, நான்கு என, ஐந்து என, 
>> ஆறு என, ஏழு என, எட்டு என, தொண்டு என, 
>> நால்வகை ஊழி எண் நவிற்றும் சிறப்பினை …  
>> 
>> Now, I request our dear colleague Jean-Luc Chevillard for a translation from Gros for this part of the Paripadal poem. 
>> 
>> Thanks and regards,
>> rajam 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2022, at 9:19 AM, alakendu das via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dr.Dahejia,
>>> With due regards, I mention the following points on the issue of "Sunnya"
>>> 1) "Sunnyata" of Mahayana Buddhism is a purely philosophical concept developed by Asanga and his brother BasuBandhu, embodying the principal of "ChatushKotiBinirmuktwa"..
>>> 2) In the world of Mathematics,probably ,an ancient Indian text dating back to 5th CE B.C, named as "Lokabibhaga" displayed use of decimal system ( including aero) .I would be grateful if any further reference on this text can be furnished.
>>> 3) AryaBhatta's name is  associated with the concept of zero" with respect,although there is a view that Maya civilization of Central America introduced the concept of zero.
>>> 
>>> Would like to be enlightened more on this.
>>> Regards
>>> Alakendu Das.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Harsha Dehejia via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>>
>>> Sent: Sun, 24 Jul 2022 16:20:43 GMT+0530
>>> To: Indology List <indology at list.indology.info <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>>
>>> Subject: [INDOLOGY] Sunya
>>> 
>>> Friends:
>>> 
>>> Is there any evidence that the sunya of mathematics arose out of the sunyata of Mahayana Buddhism?
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Hrtsha
>>> Harsha V. Dehejia
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