[INDOLOGY] Arsagranthavali 1912 Samkhya publication

Sun Dec 18 20:30:18 UTC 2022

I heard an explanation (if I remember correctly from Dominik Wujastyk) that the son of a Russian indologist discovered his father's book at DLI and threatened DLI with a lawsuit for copyright infringement. Because of this threat, the Indian authorities decided to close the project completely. I would like to know if this was really the case and to hear a fuller story.

The DLI scans have, in theory at least, been included in the new National Digital Library of India (NDLI) project (https://www.ndl.gov.in/). I once registered to access the materials in this collection, but the results were poor so I do not use it. Does anyone have current experience with this project?

Lubomir

On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 14:45:53 -0500
Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you Lubomir for pointing this out (and especially thank you to Martin
> Gluckman!).  Can anyone shed some light on how and why such an important
> project disappeared.  Did the DLI make any announcements about its ending?
> 
> Harry Spier
> Harry Spier
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 1:17 PM Lubomír Ondračka <ondracka at ff.cuni.cz>
> wrote:
> 
> > I would like to take this opportunity to point out a fact that is not well
> > known among Indologists. All of us who routinely use the DLI book scans on
> > archive.org must be extremely grateful to Martin Gluckman, as he created
> > a mirror of the entire DLI before the project ended and all the books
> > disappeared. Without his action, thousands of scans from the DLI would no
> > longer be publicly available.
> >
> > In addition, as the director of the Sanskrit Research Institute in
> > Auroville, he is behind not only the DLI Mirror but also the Sanskrit
> > Dictionary and a number of other useful projects (
> > https://sri.auroville.org/projects/).
> >
> > Best
> > Lubomir
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 10:03:56 -0700
> > David and Nancy Reigle <dnreigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Lubomir,
> > >
> > > This information is extremely helpful. Thanks a lot for writing it up for
> > > us. No doubt it will help others here, too, in finding some of these
> > > elusive titles. I had not seen the DLI mirror site that you gave a link
> > to.
> > > Its search capabilities are amazing.
> > >
> > > With many thanks,
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 3:45 AM Lubomír Ondračka <ondracka at ff.cuni.cz>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear David,
> > > >
> > > > indeed, finding a file on archive.org is sometimes tricky. I have
> > > > developed several strategies that help me. Keeping in mind the nice
> > Chinese
> > > > proverb about the fish and the fisherman, I will share one useful
> > strategy.
> > > >
> > > > If I suspect that a book may have been scanned as part of the DLI
> > project,
> > > > but I cannot find it on archive.org easily, I go to the DLI mirror (
> > > > https://dli.sanskritdictionary.com/). Here it is possible to search by
> > > > title or author, but most importantly it is possible to search for a
> > > > substring. So I pick the most stable substring from the complicated
> > > > Sanskrit name, which can be written in many ways, and search for that.
> > > > Besides, the search fields here have an autocomplete feature so you
> > can see
> > > > what the possibilities are.
> > > >
> > > > After a successful search, you can either get the pdf directly from
> > this
> > > > site (if it is there, which it is not always), or you can find it on
> > > > archive.org, preferably by using the number in the "Identifier URI"
> > field
> > > > (e.g. in the case of your text it is 483197, if you enter that number
> > in
> > > > the archive.org search you will find the page).
> > > >
> > > > To sum up, for more complicated titles, I strongly recommend starting
> > your
> > > > search on this DLI Mirror site.
> > > >
> > > > Best
> > > > Lubomir
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 07:30:54 -0700
> > > > David and Nancy Reigle <dnreigle at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Lubomir,
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks for finding this and sending the link. Getting access to
> > this
> > > > > book is very important to me. The varying spellings of titles for the
> > > > books
> > > > > scanned by the Digital Library of India often thwart my attempts to
> > find
> > > > > them. You seem to be an expert at finding them. I surely do
> > appreciate
> > > > your
> > > > > kindness in getting me this link.
> > > > >
> > > > > All the best to you,
> > > > >
> > > > > David
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 12:56 AM Lubomír Ondračka <
> > ondracka at ff.cuni.cz>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It is here:
> > > > > > https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.483197
> > > > > >
> > > > > > L.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 20:12:34 -0700
> > > > > > David and Nancy Reigle via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nandalal Sinha in his 1915 book, *The Samkhya Philosophy*, on the
> > > > first
> > > > > > > page of the last appendix, "Panchasikha-sutram," refers to a
> > Samkhya
> > > > > > > publication prepared by Raja Ram and published in the series,
> > > > > > > Arsa-Granthavali (Lahore), Vol. VIII, nos. 4 and 5, 1912. I
> > cannot
> > > > find
> > > > > > > this publication listed in WorldCat, or a scan of it at
> > Archive.org.
> > > > I
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > only able to find this reference listing:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://www.panditproject.org/entity/50978/print
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone have a copy of this publication, or know where to
> > find
> > > > it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > David Reigle
> > > > > > > Colorado, U.S.A.
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
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