[INDOLOGY] Again-Schwab's English translation

Tue Jun 29 08:17:11 UTC 2021

By the way, the administrative act establishing the two chairs  
(Sanskrit and Chinese) was published in Roland Lardinois, Sylvain Lévi  
et l’entrée du sanscrit au Collège de France.
Best wishes,
Eli

Zitat von Lyne Bansat-Boudon via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> This is to corroborante the answer Rosane Rocher gave to the  
> interesting question of  Dean Michael Anderson.
> It was indeed the other way round for those creations were the  
> result  of an increasing aspiration to secularism («   laïcité »).  
> It was specially the case, regarding the Ecole pratique des hautes  
> études (EPHE),  with the creation, in 1886, of its 5h section, which  
> was named section «des Sciences religieuses»  (and not «d'histoire  
> des religions», for instance), for the issue was to provide a  
> non-denominational teaching  of religious facts.  Moreover, under  
> the aegis of Victor Duruy, the Minister of Education (Ministre de  
> l’instruction publique), the credits allocated until then to the  
> Faculties of Catholic Theology were transferred to the EPHE at the  
> occasion of the creation of the section of Sciences religieuses, to  
> the great displeasure, not surprisingly, of those Faculties.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Lyne
>
>
> [cid:8E90FAFD-609F-4D7A-9393-D17E94D59596 at home]
>
>
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> Le 27 juin 2021 à 15:25, Rosane Rocher via INDOLOGY  
> <indology at list.indology.info<mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> a  
> écrit :
>
> No, that was done by the government. The Arabist Silvestre de Sacy  
> had long lobbied for them.
>
> Best,
> Rosane
>
> On 6/27/21 9:15 AM, Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY wrote:
> Were these the ones founded by the church to facilitate conversion  
> to Christianity, as so many of those early positions were?
>
> Best,
>
> Dean
>
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021, 2:56:15 PM GMT+5:30, Eli Franco  
> <franco at uni-leipzig.de><mailto:franco at uni-leipzig.de> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, the two chairs, for Sanskrit and Chinese, were created at the same time.
> Best wishes,
> Eli
>
>
>
> Zitat von Richard Mahoney via INDOLOGY  
> <indology at list.indology.info<mailto:indology at list.indology.info>>:
>
>> Curious, I was just reading that Abel-Rémusat (1788--1832) secured the
>> first chair in Chinese at the Collège de France, also in 1815;
>> enviable time.
>>
>>
>> Best, Richard
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>> From: Lyne Bansat-Boudon via INDOLOGY  
>> <indology at list.indology.info<mailto:indology at list.indology.info>>
>> Reply-To: Lyne Bansat-Boudon  
>> <Lyne.Bansat-Boudon at ephe.psl.eu<mailto:Lyne.Bansat-Boudon at ephe.psl.eu>>
>> To: Rosane Rocher <rrocher at sas.upenn.edu<mailto:rrocher at sas.upenn.edu>>
>> Cc: Indology List  
>> <indology at list.indology.info<mailto:indology at list.indology.info>>
>> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] erratum-Schwab's English translation
>> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 07:40:14 +0000
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>> Dear colleagues,
>> I just noticed a typo in my post. Please correct it: Chézy’s chair in
>> Collège de France was created in 1815.
>>
>> My very best,
>>
>> Lyne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Le 25 juin 2021 à 23:52, Rosane Rocher via INDOLOGY
>>> <indology at list.indology.info<mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>
>>> It strikes me that I ought to have given some reason for my abrupt
>>> warning against the English translation of Raymond Schwab'sOriental
>>> Renaissance. Let me quote the introductory paragraph of the review I
>>> gave it back in 1988:
>>>
>>> "Scholars interested in the East-West intellectual encounter will
>>> welcome the publication of an English translation of Raymond
>>> Schwab's "La Renaissance Orientale", a book that, though 34 years
>>> old, has not been replaced. A look at the contents of this handsome
>>> volume reveals useful added features, such as an alphabetical and
>>> updated bibliography and a fuller and more readable index. A
>>> thorough perusal of the English translation, however, turns elation
>>> into disappointment. Not only was Schwab's difficult, poetic French
>>> occasionally beyond the powers of the translators, their lack of
>>> familiarity with Indian culture and Anglo-Indian history not
>>> infrequently led them astray."
>>>
>>> Examples are given in the core of the review. The full text can be
>>> found in Orientalistische Literaturzeitung 86.4, 1988, coll.
>>> 471–473.
>>>
>>> Rosane
>>>
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