[INDOLOGY] Velthuis nagari font for linux

Sat Jul 24 15:20:00 UTC 2021

Thanks, Tim,

I'll need some time to process all that, since I'm but a beginner in
xelatex, who have also forgotten all latex I learned more than 10 years ago.

b.r.
Adriano

Prof. Dr. Adriano Aprigliano
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Em sáb., 24 de jul. de 2021 às 12:04, Lubin, Tim <LubinT at wlu.edu> escreveu:

> Adriano, I had to deal with this same problem recently, and I learned that
> XeLaTeX does not use (and apparently cannot be made to use dev.sty, which
> is the Velthuis macro package.   So all commands that are Velthuis-specific
> and defined in dev.sty or required for devnag.exe (e.g., @hyphen and \dn)
> are no longer needed or wanted.
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> The good news is that XeLaTeX with Polyglossia can read the Velthuis
> transliteration fine, but until your query today, I was not aware of any
> TTF font that mimicked the Velthuis metafont closely.  Sanskrit2003 came
> most highly recommended, but I still missed the Velthuis look.  I would say
> that Arial Unicode MS is pretty satisfactory as a near-match:
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>                 Velthuis metafont:
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>                 Arial Unicode MS ttf:
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> I did also FreeFontSerif, which in its Devanagari range is modeled on
> Velthuis.  It looks pretty close.  It is available for free download here:
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> http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/freefont/
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> I installed all the fonts in what seemed like the latest folder:
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> freefont-ttf-20120503.zip
> <http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/freefont/freefont-ttf-20120503.zip>
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> 2012-05-03 09:42
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> 5.8M
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> I haven’t yet tried them out on in XeLaTeX, but in Word it failed to
> execute a basic conjunct like g+r :
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> I found adapting files written for use with the Velthuis package to
> Unicode in XeLaTeX a bit tricky, but if you contact me off-list I can
> provide details.
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> Best,
> Tim
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> *From: *Adriano Aprigliano <aprigliano at usp.br>
> *Date: *Saturday, July 24, 2021 at 10:01 AM
> *To: *"Lubin, Tim" <LubinT at wlu.edu>
> *Cc: *Michael <mjs at spicemail.cc>, INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>
> *Subject: *Re: [INDOLOGY] Velthuis nagari font for linux
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> That was exactly my doubt, Tim, but my lack of technical knowledge blurred
> my words.
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> Can it be used in xelatex with polyglossia?
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> b.w.
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> Adriano
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> Em sáb., 24 de jul. de 2021 às 08:40, Lubin, Tim <LubinT at wlu.edu>
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> Dear Adriano,
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> As far as I understand, your problem is that the Velthuis “font”
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> platforms like other such fonts, but rather it is a metafont
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> Tim
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> *From: *INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info> on behalf of
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> *Reply-To: *Adriano Aprigliano <aprigliano at usp.br>
> *Date: *Saturday, July 24, 2021 at 6:31 AM
> *To: *Michael <mjs at spicemail.cc>
> *Cc: *INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>
> *Subject: *Re: [INDOLOGY] Velthuis nagari font for linux
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> Thank you, Michael,
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> I'm aware of that.
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> The problem is that this one is a font for Latex, part of a specific
> package and I don't know how to use it, for example, in common text editors
> like libreoffice, word, etc.
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> b.r.
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> Adriano
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> Prof. Dr. Adriano Aprigliano
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> Língua e Literatura Sânscrita
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> DLCV/FFLCH-USP
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> Em sex., 23 de jul. de 2021 às 23:39, Michael <mjs at spicemail.cc> escreveu:
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> Dear Adriano,
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> Fonts are not specific to operating systems.  I have moved from MacOS to
> Linux to BSD over the course of the past 15 years, and I have never had a
> font that worked on one not work on another operating system.
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> I hope that helps,
>
> Michael Slouber
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> On 7/23/21 8:25 AM, Adriano Aprigliano via INDOLOGY wrote:
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> Dear colleagues,
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> Does anyone know if Velthuis nagari font is available as a unicode font
> for linux?
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> Best regards
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> Adriano
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