[INDOLOGY] Accusative of direction

Hock, Hans Henrich hhhock at illinois.edu
Tue Sep 17 14:58:55 UTC 2019


Dear Oliver,

At Madhav’s suggestion I am adding two old papers of mine in which I address the issue (within broader contexts); see attached. (For one of the papers I include the original, since the published version is full of typos and, based on an old paper copy, not in the best of visual shapes). 

With all best wishes,

Hans Henrich




> On 17 Sep2019, at 09:38, Oliver Hellwig via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
> 
> Dear Madhav,
> 
> thanks a lot to you (as well as to the other list members who answered
> off list). This is exactly what I was looking for!
> 
> Best wishes, Oliver
> 
> On 17/09/2019 15:29, Madhav Deshpande wrote:
>> Dear Oliver,
>> 
>>      You may find discussions by grammarians on semantic sub-types of
>> Karman useful in this respect.  Works from Bhartr̥hari's Vākyapadīya to
>> Kauṇḍabhaṭṭa's Vaiyākaraṇa-Bhūṣaṇa and Nāgeśa's Laghumañjūṣā discuss
>> these sub-types.  The discussions on verb semantics classifying verbs
>> into kartr̥stha-kriyaka versus karmastha-kriyaka and kartr̥stha-bhāvaka
>> versus karmastha-bhāvaka may also provide some clues.  I have discussed
>> the effects of some semantic sub-types of Karman [affected versus
>> non-affected] in the syntax of passives of dvikarmaka verbs.  You can
>> see this in a sentence like ajāṃ grāmaṃ nayati > ajā grāmaṃ nīyate; but
>> not ajāṃ grāmaḥ nīyate.  On the other hand, grāmaṃ gacchati can be
>> passivized as grāmaḥ gamyate.  So grāma in relation to nayati and
>> gacchati seems to have a somewhat different perception.  With respect to
>> nayati, it may be more or less adverbial as you say.  On the other hand,
>> with respect to gacchati, it has some closer semantic connection.  This
>> looks like a great topic for deeper introspection.  Perhaps Hans Hock
>> and George Cardona could add to this discussion.  With best wishes,
>> 
>> Madhav
>> 
>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
>> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
>> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
>> 
>> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:29 AM Oliver Hellwig via INDOLOGY
>> <indology at list.indology.info <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> wrote:
>> 
>>    Dear all,
>> 
>>    this question probably has an obvious answer, but I don't find it:
>>    Let's say we have a sentence like rAmo vanaM pravizati, where the acc.
>>    vanam expresses the goal of a motion verb.
>> 
>>    Are there any papers or any clues from the grammatical tradition that
>>    could tell if the accusative vanam was "felt" like a real object in
>>    actual language use (as the sun in "I see the sun"), or rather
>>    considered as some kind of adverbial non-core argument to the verb?
>> 
>>    Any hint is highly appreciated.
>> 
>>    Best, Oliver
>> 
>>    ---
>>    Oliver Hellwig, IVS Zürich
>> 
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