[INDOLOGY] Accusative of direction

[Oliver Hellwig]

Dear Madhav,

thanks a lot to you (as well as to the other list members who answered
off list). This is exactly what I was looking for!

Best wishes, Oliver

On 17/09/2019 15:29, Madhav Deshpande wrote:
> Dear Oliver,
>
>       You may find discussions by grammarians on semantic sub-types of
> Karman useful in this respect.  Works from Bhartr̥hari's Vākyapadīya to
> Kauṇḍabhaṭṭa's Vaiyākaraṇa-Bhūṣaṇa and Nāgeśa's Laghumañjūṣā discuss
> these sub-types.  The discussions on verb semantics classifying verbs
> into kartr̥stha-kriyaka versus karmastha-kriyaka and kartr̥stha-bhāvaka
> versus karmastha-bhāvaka may also provide some clues.  I have discussed
> the effects of some semantic sub-types of Karman [affected versus
> non-affected] in the syntax of passives of dvikarmaka verbs.  You can
> see this in a sentence like ajāṃ grāmaṃ nayati > ajā grāmaṃ nīyate; but
> not ajāṃ grāmaḥ nīyate.  On the other hand, grāmaṃ gacchati can be
> passivized as grāmaḥ gamyate.  So grāma in relation to nayati and
> gacchati seems to have a somewhat different perception.  With respect to
> nayati, it may be more or less adverbial as you say.  On the other hand,
> with respect to gacchati, it has some closer semantic connection.  This
> looks like a great topic for deeper introspection.  Perhaps Hans Hock
> and George Cardona could add to this discussion.  With best wishes,
>
> Madhav
>
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
>
> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 3:29 AM Oliver Hellwig via INDOLOGY
> <indology at list.indology.info <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> wrote:
>
>     Dear all,
>
>     this question probably has an obvious answer, but I don't find it:
>     Let's say we have a sentence like rAmo vanaM pravizati, where the acc.
>     vanam expresses the goal of a motion verb.
>
>     Are there any papers or any clues from the grammatical tradition that
>     could tell if the accusative vanam was "felt" like a real object in
>     actual language use (as the sun in "I see the sun"), or rather
>     considered as some kind of adverbial non-core argument to the verb?
>
>     Any hint is highly appreciated.
>
>     Best, Oliver
>
>     ---
>     Oliver Hellwig, IVS Zürich
>
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