[INDOLOGY] Date of Candranandana

[Péter-Dániel Szántó]

Dear friends,

Since sthagana means concealment/cover, that part corresponds to sgrib, so
I suspect that originally the Tibetan had sgrib byed, not sgrib med.

Best,
Peter


On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 5:24 PM Andrey Klebanov via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I was looking at the Tibetan translation of Candranandana’s introductory
> verses:
>
> praṇamya devadeveśaṃ hariṃ vāṅnidhim akṣaram/
> padārthacandrikāṃ ṭīkāṃ śubhrāṃ sarvahitāvahām//1//
>
> 'phrog byed mi zad tshig gi gter // lha yi lha dbaṅ rab btud de  //
> rgyas bshad tshig don zla ba'i zer // kun la phan gsal bdag gis ni //
>
> *śrīmacchakunadevena* prerito hṛdaye sphuțam/
>
> buddhyā kariṣyāmi guroḥ saṃsmṛtya caraṇāmbujam//2//
>
> *dpal ldan sgrib med* (D1b4) *lha* yis ni // sñiṅ ni rnam par draṅs pas
> na //
> bla ma'i luṅ ni yaṅ dag ñid // gsal bar rtogs nas brtsam par bya //
>
> As you can see, instead of expected *Tha ga na (or, at least, smth.
> connected to Śakuna), we find Sgrib med (*Nirāvaraṇa ?!).
>
> I am really puzzled by this find and would be very grateful if anyone
> could suggest what I could do in order to try understanding this oddity (I
> am not a Tibetologist, so apologies for this, perhaps, very basic
> question). Are there any Tibetan lists of Indian rulers or personal names
> in general? Could one think of any plausible explanation for this
> translation given that the original could have read smth. like “Thakkana/
> Śakuna”?
>
> Thanks very much in advance!
>
> best,
> Andrey
> On Oct 9, 2019 02:41 +0900, Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei at uchicago.edu>,
> wrote:
>
> As I see it, it is crucial that also Kalhaṇa mentions a ruler named
> Thakkana (RT 6.230, 231, 236) as an adversary of Abhimanyu (ruled
> 958-972).
>
> That is certainly correct, Roland - he must be the Tha ga na of the
> concluding verse.
>
> Matthew
>
> Matthew Kapstein
> Directeur d'études,
> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes
>
> Numata Visiting Professor of Buddhist Studies,
> The University of Chicago
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Roland Steiner <steiner at staff.uni-marburg.de>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2019 12:31 PM
> *To:* Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei at uchicago.edu>
> *Cc:* andra.kleb at gmail.com <andra.kleb at gmail.com>;
> indology at list.indology.info <indology at list.indology.info>; Madhu K
> Parameshwaran <madhusukrutham at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Date of Candranandana
>
> Dear Mathew,
>
> I am sure you are right, but it may be worthwhile to look at some of
> the many references he has given.
>
> As I see it, it is crucial that also Kalhaṇa mentions a ruler named
> Thakkana (RT 6.230, 231, 236) as an adversary of Abhimanyu (ruled
> 958-972).
>
> Best,
> Roland
>
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