Re: [INDOLOGY] Formations of the ghanāghana type

[Jan E.M. Houben]

Directly or indirectly relevant may be the cpds of the type *men**āmenam,
dhur**ādhuram*, as well as those of the type *ke**śāke**śi, kac**ākaci* :
see the discussion, including references to AA 5.4.127, AA 2.2.27 (assumed
to be of a larger scope than AA 5.4.127), discussions by Wackernagel, Caland,
Hoffmann, in Henk Bodewitz, "The 'marriage' of Heaven and Earth" WZKS 26
(1982): 23-36, esp. pp. 28ff, 32ff.

On Sat, 11 May 2019 at 21:29, Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

> Dear Martin,
> Renou, Grammaire sanscrite par. 147 (p. 192), treats compounds of the
> ghanāghana type as "intensifs". (Except for vadāvada,  they are all
> "intensifs d'origine verbale".) Thus, if I understand Renou correctly,
> saumyāsaumya would not mean "good and not good", but "very good".
> Herman
>
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> *Van:* INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Martin
> Gansten via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info]
> *Verzonden:* zaterdag 11 mei 2019 20:55
> *Aan:* indology at list.indology.info
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Formations of the ghanāghana type
>
> Thanks to Herman Tieken and Madhav Deshpande for their immediate
> responses. The examples given in *Altindische Grammatik *1 §61a
> (regrettably I don't have vol. 2.2 to hand) are similar to those cited by
> Madhav from Patañjali. Common to all is that they seem to be derived
> directly from verb roots, unlike those in §62b (such as nava-nava), which
> lack the lengthened ā (except where this is caused by sandhi, as in
> alpālpa). Am I right in concluding from this that the reduplicated forms
> with lengthened ā are all verbal nouns, and that no corresponding
> formations are made from other adjectives?
>
> My reason for asking is that I have come across a passage (in an
> astrological text as usual) which contrasts *krūrākrūra *planets (causing
> death) with *samuyāsaumya *planets (causing victory) and *miśra* planets
> (giving mediocre results). Interpreting the first two words as 'evil and
> not evil' and 'good and not good', respectively, clearly makes no sense, as
> both would seem to be more or less synonymous with *miśra*. So I am
> looking for alternative interpretations, though so far without much success.
>
> Thanks again,
> Martin
>
>
> Den 2019-05-11 kl. 20:06, skrev Madhav Deshpande:
>
> Hello Martin,
>
>      Patañjali's Mahabhāṣya on P.6.1.12 offers several examples of this
> type: चराचर:, चलाचल:, पतापत:, वदावद:, घनाघन:, पाटूपट:.  These examples are
> offered to illustrate some of the Vārttikas on this rule.
>
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor Emeritus
> Sanskrit and Linguistics
> University of Michigan
> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>
>
> On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 10:42 AM Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
>> Altindische Grammatik, Wackernagel und Debrunner, Bd 1, pp. 124, 146 and
>> Bd 2, 2, p. 85
>>
>> Herman Tieken
>> Stationsweg 58
>> 2515 BP Den Haag
>> The Netherlands
>> 00 31 (0)70 2208127
>> website: hermantieken.com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Van: INDOLOGY [indology-bounces at list.indology.info] namens Martin
>> Gansten via INDOLOGY [indology at list.indology.info]
>> Verzonden: zaterdag 11 mei 2019 19:34
>> Aan: indology at list.indology.info
>> Onderwerp: [INDOLOGY] Formations of the ghanāghana type
>>
>> With apologies for what may be a fairly basic question, I wonder if
>> anyone can direct me to an English-language (or German, or French at a
>> pinch) source discussing the formation of adjectives such as ghanāghana.
>> (I assume that there are other such instances, though none comes
>> immediately to mind.) Böhtlingk/Roth and Monier-Williams give references
>> to Pāṇini (6.1.12) etc., but I could do with something a little more
>> accessible.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
>> Martin Gansten
>>
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