Re: [INDOLOGY] Formations of the ghanāghana type

[Tieken, H.J.H.]

Dear Martin,
Renou, Grammaire sanscrite par. 147 (p. 192), treats compounds of the ghanāghana type as "intensifs". (Except for vadāvada,  they are all "intensifs d'origine verbale".) Thus, if I understand Renou correctly, saumyāsaumya would not mean "good and not good", but "very good".
Herman

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Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Formations of the ghanāghana type

Thanks to Herman Tieken and Madhav Deshpande for their immediate responses. The examples given in Altindische Grammatik 1 §61a (regrettably I don't have vol. 2.2 to hand) are similar to those cited by Madhav from Patañjali. Common to all is that they seem to be derived directly from verb roots, unlike those in §62b (such as nava-nava), which lack the lengthened ā (except where this is caused by sandhi, as in alpālpa). Am I right in concluding from this that the reduplicated forms with lengthened ā are all verbal nouns, and that no corresponding formations are made from other adjectives?

My reason for asking is that I have come across a passage (in an astrological text as usual) which contrasts krūrākrūra planets (causing death) with samuyāsaumya planets (causing victory) and miśra planets (giving mediocre results). Interpreting the first two words as 'evil and not evil' and 'good and not good', respectively, clearly makes no sense, as both would seem to be more or less synonymous with miśra. So I am looking for alternative interpretations, though so far without much success.

Thanks again,
Martin


Den 2019-05-11 kl. 20:06, skrev Madhav Deshpande:
Hello Martin,

     Patañjali's Mahabhāṣya on P.6.1.12 offers several examples of this type: चराचर:, चलाचल:, पतापत:, वदावद:, घनाघन:, पाटूपट:.  These examples are offered to illustrate some of the Vārttikas on this rule.

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus
Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan
[Residence: Campbell, California]


On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 10:42 AM Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info<mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> wrote:
Altindische Grammatik, Wackernagel und Debrunner, Bd 1, pp. 124, 146 and  Bd 2, 2, p. 85

Herman Tieken
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Onderwerp: [INDOLOGY] Formations of the ghanāghana type

With apologies for what may be a fairly basic question, I wonder if
anyone can direct me to an English-language (or German, or French at a
pinch) source discussing the formation of adjectives such as ghanāghana.
(I assume that there are other such instances, though none comes
immediately to mind.) Böhtlingk/Roth and Monier-Williams give references
to Pāṇini (6.1.12) etc., but I could do with something a little more
accessible.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
Martin Gansten


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