[INDOLOGY] Non-standard sandhi

[Philipp Maas]

Dear Krishnaprasad,

It would be interesting to know the first attestation for the use of
*avagraha* in manuscripts and inscriptions. According to G. Bühler, the
oldest attestation of an avagraha used for the elision of a can be found of
a copper plate inscription of the Rāṣṭrakūta king Dhruva from 834/5 CE
(Indische
Palaeographie <https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.340669/page/n3>,
p. 86). This reference may, of course, not represent the latest state of
research.



Best,



Philipp
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Universität Leipzig
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Am Di., 19. März 2019 um 01:31 Uhr schrieb Krishnaprasad G via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info>:

> This avagrahava is very very modern.
> In Mahabhasya Patanjali writes for भ्यसो भ्यम् as किमयं भ्यंशब्दः
> अहोस्विद् अभ्यम् शब्दः
> कुतः सन्देहः ? समानो निर्देशः।
> And even in the time of Bhattoji Dikshita was not used.
> For समुदाङ्भ्यो यमोग्रन्थे  he comments, अग्रन्थे इतिच्छेदः।
> And there is a commentary on Bhagavatam by Satyadharmatirtha he is 250
> years back. Even he writes such.
> So no difference in pronunciation.
> KP
>
> On Tue 19 Mar, 2019, 3:12 AM Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY, <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
>> Dear Harry,
>>
>>      You have raised an interesting question.  The term *avagraha *is
>> used in older texts like the Prātiśākhyas and Śikṣās to refer to a pause
>> between members of compounds in the Padapāṭha, and some texts like the
>> Śaunakīya-Caturādhyāyikā (3.3.35: ऋगर्धर्चपदान्तावग्रहविवृत्तिषु मात्राकाल:
>> काल:) assign the duration of a *mātrā *to this type of *avagraha*.  The
>> written sign of *avagraha *(ऽ) in later times got extended to cases like
>> ततोऽपि and एतेऽपि, and yet I have not seen evidence for this extension in
>> any of the phonetic texts, and to my knowledge there is no actual pause in
>> recitation in these cases.  Such a pause would create difficulties with the
>> meters.  How, when and why the term *avagraha *and the written sign (ऽ)
>> got extended to such uses needs to be investigated.  But it has no phonetic
>> value as far as I know.
>>
>> Madhav
>>
>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>> Professor Emeritus
>> Sanskrit and Linguistics
>> University of Michigan
>> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 12:25 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY <
>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
>>> How are avagrahas considered in metrical verses?
>>> Is --- sahite 'sya --- pronounced as if it was --- sahite sya --- or is
>>> there a slight pause for the avagraha?
>>>
>>> Harry Spier
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 3:43 AM Martin Gansten via INDOLOGY <
>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks to Madhav Deshpande, Andrey Klebanov and Harry Spier for their
>>>> (off-list) replies to my question, confirming that the sandhi *e + a >
>>>> a a* is indeed non-standard. Madhav wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have not seen another example exactly like this, and have not come
>>>> across a traditional rule to deal with this.  I wonder how hybrid this text
>>>> is, or whether there are manuscript variants for this particular passage.
>>>> One thing I noticed is that if we keep the presumed pre-sandhi reading of
>>>> "sahite asya," the meter does not work, and neither does it work with the
>>>> regular sandhi "sahite 'sya."  The meter does seem to work with "sahita
>>>> asya".  The last syllable of "sahita" needs to be metrically light.  So I
>>>> suppose some sort of metrical compulsion may have resulted in this
>>>> irregularity.  Just a thought.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The work in question is a largish one (~550 stanzas) and written in
>>>> perfectly grammatical, sometimes even elegant Sanskrit in a variety of
>>>> metres, with no particular suggestion of being hybrid, and the witnesses I
>>>> have seen (two of the work itself, and half a dozen of another work quoting
>>>> the verse in question) all agree on the reading of this passage.
>>>>
>>>> Harry raised the same point about the metre (svāgatā), but it wouldn't
>>>> be difficult to rephrase the pāda so as to conform to both metre and
>>>> standard sandhi (e.g., tena vāpi sahite 'sya ca labdhis). So I am left with
>>>> the impression that Yādavasūri must have considered his choice of sandhi in
>>>> this case unproblematic, although he usually follows the stardard rule *e
>>>> + a > e [']*.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> Martin
>>>>
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