[INDOLOGY] Tamil pronunciation

Tieken, H.J.H. H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl
Mon Jun 3 10:41:25 UTC 2019


Dear Artur, I have found the reference:

Leigh Lisker, "The Tamil Occlusives: Short vs. Long or Voiced vs. Voiceless". Indian Linguistics 1958.

Herman

Herman Tieken
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Verzonden: maandag 3 juni 2019 11:21
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Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] Tamil pronunciation

Dear Friends,

allow me to ask several questions, re pronunciation of Tamil.

The first of them:

Tamil தீவுக்கூட்டம்  - is transliterated as Tīvukkūṭṭam. Is it formally pronounced as Tivukkuttam - or as Tivukuttam?

Artur Karp

pon., 3 cze 2019 o 09:01 Artur Karp <karp at uw.edu.pl<mailto:karp at uw.edu.pl>> napisał(a):
My thanks to all who devoted their time to answer my (retired non-dravidist's) question.

Thanks,

Artur Karp

pon., 3 cze 2019 o 09:00 Tieken, H.J.H. <H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl<mailto:H.J.H.Tieken at hum.leidenuniv.nl>> napisał(a):
Dear Artur,

The Tamil script does not have letters for the voiced plosives (and no aspirates). For that it uses the corresponding voiceless plosives. After a nasal and between vowels k is pronounced  g: aṅku "there" is pronounces aṅgu, āku "to become", āgu or āhu. Word-initial k is pronounced k, as in kātal "love". So is double kk, as in the infinitive kākka "to protect". This phenomenon used to be known by the expression "convertibility of surds and sonants".
The "official" transcription is aṅku, āku, kātal, kākka. There is an unofficial transcription used in English language publications. For instance, kātali, " a lovely girl", is transcribed as kathali as well as kadhali.
In our youngest son's class in primary school there was a girl from Surinam called vasutha, that is, via vasutā, from Skt vasudhā.

Herman


Herman Tieken
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Verzonden: zondag 2 juni 2019 22:18
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Onderwerp: [INDOLOGY] Tamil pronunciation

Dear Friends,

Tamil இந்திய is transliterated as Intiya. Is it pronounced as Intiya - or Indiya?

Thanks in advance,

Artur Karp (ret.)

Uniwersytet Warszawski
Polska


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