[INDOLOGY] Kashmir Shaiva and 'vernacular' - a question

[Harry Spier]

The Parātriśikāvivṛtī also studied in H. C. Bhayani's article is also
downloadable from the Muktabodha digital library both as a searchable
e-text and as a pdf of the original vol. 18 of the KSTS series.

Harry Spier


On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 3:33 PM Andrew Ollett via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

> H.C. Bhayani has an essay in vol. 1 of his "Indological Studies"
> (Ahmedabad 1993) titled "The Apabhraṁśa Passages from Abhinavagupta’s
> Tantrasāra and Parātriṁśikāvṛtti" (pp. 276–296), originally published in
> 1971 in Vidyā 14 (2): 1–18. There he attempts to correct/rewrite the 32
> Apabhramsha passages in the Tantrasāra are the 7 Apabhramsha saṅgrahaślōkas
> in the Parātriṁśikāvṛtti. I don't have a soft copy, but he says there (p.
> 293) “there is nothing specifically *dialectal *or *regional* or
> ‘Kashmirian’ about Abhinavagupta’s Apabhraṁśa.” Prof. Bhayani also noted
> that the text of these verses as printed in the KSTS edition (in 1918, when
> Apabhramsha studies were in their infancy) is "a chaotic jumble of letters
> from which it seems near-impossible to make out any connected verbal
> structure or palpable meaning." I remember hearing that Paul Gerstmayr was
> working on these verses at one point.
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 3:10 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
>> I was  told the verses in the tantrasAra are in Apabhramsa.
>>
>> Harry Spier
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 1:26 PM Artur Karp <karp at uw.edu.pl> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Tatiana, and dear Harry,
>>>
>>> Strange, somehow. Your exchange contains no information re the language
>>> of the vernacular verses ending each chapter of the "Kaashmira (with
>>> short 'i'! - TO) Shaiva works". Should it remain a closely guarded secret?
>>>
>>> Greetings from frosty Warszawa,
>>>
>>> Artur Karp (ret.)
>>> Chair of South Asian Studies
>>> University of Warsaw
>>> Poland
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> sob., 1 gru 2018 o 14:52 Harry Spier via INDOLOGY <
>>> indology at list.indology.info> napisał(a):
>>>
>>>> Dear Tatiana,
>>>>
>>>> I referenced the KSTS edition of the tantrasAra because this is
>>>> available online in the Muktabodha digital library as both a digital e-text
>>>> and a pdf of the original.   I vaguely recall looking at a tantrasAra
>>>> manuscript about 20 years ago that had  prakrit verses  that were different
>>>> from those in the KSTS edition.  But that was 20 years ago so I could be
>>>> mistaken.
>>>>
>>>> Harry Spier
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 2:22 AM tatiana.oranskaia <
>>>> tatiana.oranskaia at uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Harry,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you ever so much for the tip!
>>>>>
>>>>> Are they to be found only in the KSTS edition?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>> Tatiana
>>>>> Zitat von Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Dear Tatiana,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You can see this phenomenon in the KSTS edition of the tantrasAra .
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Harry Spier
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 1:56 PM tatiana.oranskaia via INDOLOGY <
>>>>> > indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Dear colleagues,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I would be grateful for an answer to my question related to the
>>>>> following
>>>>> >> passage in the Introduction by the editor, S.R. Banerjee, to
>>>>> >> 'PraakRtadhyaaya':
>>>>> >> "Kaashmira (with short 'i'! - TO) Shaiva works are  almost
>>>>> invariably
>>>>> >> accompanied
>>>>> >> with some verses in the vernacular in the end of each chapter."
>>>>> (p.34)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> What kind of a 'vernacular'/Prakrit is it?
>>>>> >> Does it show some specific local features?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> With best wishes,
>>>>> >> Tatiana Oranskaia
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Prof. Dr. Tatiana Oranskaia
>>>>> >> Abteilung für Kultur und Geschichte Indiens und Tibets
>>>>> >> Asien-Afrika-Institut
>>>>> >> Universität Hamburg
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>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Tel.: 040 428 38 3385 (GZ)
>>>>> >> Fax: 040 42838 6944
>>>>> >> tatiana.oranskaia at uni-hamburg.de
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
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>>>>> Prof. Dr. Tatiana Oranskaia
>>>>> Abteilung für Kultur und Geschichte Indiens und Tibets
>>>>> Asien-Afrika-Institut
>>>>> Universität Hamburg
>>>>> Alsterterrasse 1, 1. OG re.
>>>>> 20354 Hamburg
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>>>>> Fax: 040 42838 6944
>>>>> tatiana.oranskaia at uni-hamburg.de
>>>>>
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