[INDOLOGY] Kashmir Shaiva and 'vernacular' - a question

Andrew Ollett andrew.ollett at gmail.com
Sat Dec 1 20:32:42 UTC 2018


H.C. Bhayani has an essay in vol. 1 of his "Indological Studies" (Ahmedabad
1993) titled "The Apabhraṁśa Passages from Abhinavagupta’s Tantrasāra and
Parātriṁśikāvṛtti" (pp. 276–296), originally published in 1971 in Vidyā 14
(2): 1–18. There he attempts to correct/rewrite the 32 Apabhramsha passages
in the Tantrasāra are the 7 Apabhramsha saṅgrahaślōkas in the
Parātriṁśikāvṛtti. I don't have a soft copy, but he says there (p. 293)
“there is nothing specifically *dialectal *or *regional* or ‘Kashmirian’
about Abhinavagupta’s Apabhraṁśa.” Prof. Bhayani also noted that the text
of these verses as printed in the KSTS edition (in 1918, when Apabhramsha
studies were in their infancy) is "a chaotic jumble of letters from which
it seems near-impossible to make out any connected verbal structure or
palpable meaning." I remember hearing that Paul Gerstmayr was working on
these verses at one point.

On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 3:10 PM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

> I was  told the verses in the tantrasAra are in Apabhramsa.
>
> Harry Spier
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 1:26 PM Artur Karp <karp at uw.edu.pl> wrote:
>
>> Dear Tatiana, and dear Harry,
>>
>> Strange, somehow. Your exchange contains no information re the language
>> of the vernacular verses ending each chapter of the "Kaashmira (with
>> short 'i'! - TO) Shaiva works". Should it remain a closely guarded secret?
>>
>> Greetings from frosty Warszawa,
>>
>> Artur Karp (ret.)
>> Chair of South Asian Studies
>> University of Warsaw
>> Poland
>>
>>
>>
>> sob., 1 gru 2018 o 14:52 Harry Spier via INDOLOGY <
>> indology at list.indology.info> napisał(a):
>>
>>> Dear Tatiana,
>>>
>>> I referenced the KSTS edition of the tantrasAra because this is
>>> available online in the Muktabodha digital library as both a digital e-text
>>> and a pdf of the original.   I vaguely recall looking at a tantrasAra
>>> manuscript about 20 years ago that had  prakrit verses  that were different
>>> from those in the KSTS edition.  But that was 20 years ago so I could be
>>> mistaken.
>>>
>>> Harry Spier
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 2:22 AM tatiana.oranskaia <
>>> tatiana.oranskaia at uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Harry,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you ever so much for the tip!
>>>>
>>>> Are they to be found only in the KSTS edition?
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Tatiana
>>>> Zitat von Harry Spier <hspier.muktabodha at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> > Dear Tatiana,
>>>> >
>>>> > You can see this phenomenon in the KSTS edition of the tantrasAra .
>>>> >
>>>> > Harry Spier
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 1:56 PM tatiana.oranskaia via INDOLOGY <
>>>> > indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dear colleagues,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I would be grateful for an answer to my question related to the
>>>> following
>>>> >> passage in the Introduction by the editor, S.R. Banerjee, to
>>>> >> 'PraakRtadhyaaya':
>>>> >> "Kaashmira (with short 'i'! - TO) Shaiva works are  almost invariably
>>>> >> accompanied
>>>> >> with some verses in the vernacular in the end of each chapter."
>>>> (p.34)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> What kind of a 'vernacular'/Prakrit is it?
>>>> >> Does it show some specific local features?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> With best wishes,
>>>> >> Tatiana Oranskaia
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Prof. Dr. Tatiana Oranskaia
>>>> >> Abteilung für Kultur und Geschichte Indiens und Tibets
>>>> >> Asien-Afrika-Institut
>>>> >> Universität Hamburg
>>>> >> Alsterterrasse 1, 1. OG re.
>>>> >> 20354 Hamburg
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Tel.: 040 428 38 3385 (GZ)
>>>> >> Fax: 040 42838 6944
>>>> >> tatiana.oranskaia at uni-hamburg.de
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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>>>> Prof. Dr. Tatiana Oranskaia
>>>> Abteilung für Kultur und Geschichte Indiens und Tibets
>>>> Asien-Afrika-Institut
>>>> Universität Hamburg
>>>> Alsterterrasse 1, 1. OG re.
>>>> 20354 Hamburg
>>>>
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>>>>
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