[INDOLOGY] Lucid dreaming in Sanskrit?

George Hart glhart at berkeley.edu
Sat Sep 9 23:36:34 UTC 2017


This is somewhat off the topic, but the discussion of dreams reminded me of a curious reference to dreaming in the Akanāṉūṟu (poem 303 by Auvaiyār):

I was afraid others might know what happened between us
and, just as a demon never tells his dreams,
I hid my secret, yet now that he has gone,
my desire, so subtle and filled with every sort of goodness,
has turned into gossip that, as it rises, is like the rushing waterfall	5
spreading from the summit of great Kolli mountain
with its demon-haunted spaces and clouds that rain willingly,
ruled by Poṟaiyaṉ whose ornaments are of fresh gold, whose army is valiant,
whose spear brings victory.

Here is my note on the second line:

2. “Just as a demon never tells his dreams” is pēey kaṇṭa kaṉavil. This is K’s interpretation, while K2 takes its other possible meaning: “like a dream (you have) of a demon.” He remarks that people do not tell others about their nightmares. If K2 is correct, one would expect the k of kaṇṭa to be doubled, which it is not.

I am wondering whether anyone on the list has come across anything in Sanskrit that would throw light on this. George Hart

> On Sep 9, 2017, at 8:45 AM, Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
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> Yoga nidra of Hatha Yoga Pradipika ( 4-49 ) is expalined as having this as a part. 
> 
> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Franco via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> wrote:
> The term svapnAntika-jnAna is sometimes explained so (i.e. An awareness that is part of a dream and in which one is aware that one dreams).
> Best wishes,
> Eli
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> On 9 Sep 2017, at 12:22, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> wrote:
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>> I forgot to add that the mahAjagrat "great awakening" of the MokSopaya,
>> discussed by Juergen Hanneder in his very interesting contribution to 
>> http://indologica.de/drupal/?q=node/652 <http://indologica.de/drupal/?q=node/652>
>> ( a book that may be in any case pertinent)
>> also seems to intimate lucid dreaming. As Hanneder puts it (p. 93)
>> "a dream world (svapna) becomes a new waking state...."
>> 
>> - Matthew
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>> Matthew Kapstein
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>> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes
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>> The University of Chicago
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