Re: [INDOLOGY] BhP 10.333.31 and the Bhāgavata Purāṇa's date

David and Nancy Reigle dnreigle at
Mon Mar 20 18:39:54 UTC 2017

Dear Palaniappan,

Yes, this verse is in the critical edition of the Bhāgavata Purāṇa, but at
10.30.31 rather than 10.33.31. There is only a small variant reading at the
end of pāda 1: tathyam for satyam.

Best regards,

David Reigle
Colorado, U.S.A.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Sudalaimuthu Palaniappan via INDOLOGY <
indology at> wrote:

> Dear Scholars,
> Yesterday, as I was browsing an online BhP text with translation published
> by ISKCON (
> SrimadBhagavatamEnglish-Sanskrit/Srimad-Bhagavatam_Canto_10_2.pdf), I
> came across the following verse.
> *īśvarāṇāṁ vacaḥ satyam*
> *tathaivācaritaṁ kvacit*
> *teṣāṁ yat sva-vaco-yuktaṁ*
> *buddhimāṁs tat samācaret*
> In connection with this verse, the commentary says, “ The word *īśvara*
> is usually defined in Sanskrit dictionaries as “lord, master, ruler,” and
> also as "capable, potent to perform.”  Based on the commentaries for this
> verse and succeeding verses, it is clear that by the word ‘*īśvara*’ the
> text refers to a devotee of Kṛṣṇa. This usage of '*īśvara*’ to refer to a
> devotee seems to be a clear case of translation of the Tamil word ‘*āḷvār*’
> as used in Tamil texts and inscriptions. Synonyms of *āḷvār* are also
> used to refer to both the devotees and the deities in the Tamil tradition.
> For instance the deity in the temple at Tanjore is called Bṛhadīśvara in
> Sanskrit and Peruvuṭaiyār in Tamil. Here Sanskrit *īśvara* is synonymous
> with Tamil *uṭaiyār*. Interestingly, Rāmānuja is called Uṭaiyavar (an
> alternate form of Uṭaiyār) in the Tamil tradition.
> I had shown in an earlier publication that the word *āḷvār* meaning ‘one
> who rules’ got modified to *āḻvār* meaning ‘one who is immersed’ due to
> hypercorrection of *ḷ* to *ḻ*. (See
> 9668394/Āḻvār_or_Nāyaṉār_The_Role_of_Sound_Variation_
> Hypercorrection_and_Folk_Etymology_in_Interpreting_the_
> Nature_of_Vaiṣṇava_Saint-Poets)
> Can anybody with access to the critical edition of the Bhāgavata Purāṇa
> tell me if BhP 10.33.31 quoted above is in the critical edition? If it is,
> then this seems to be an important important information regarding the date
> of the Bhāgavata Purāṇa.
> Thanks in advance
> Regards,
> Palaniappan
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