[INDOLOGY] Query re: guru-ziSya and paramparA

[Nagaraj Paturi]

> One interesting guru(śiṣya)paramparā that finds mention in many spiritual
traditions is that of nātha sampradāya /nātha paramparā.

For greater accuracy , I should have said,

One interesting guru(śiṣya)paramparā that finds mention as the founding/
beginning guru(śiṣya)paramparā of the given tradition in many spiritual
traditions is that of nātha sampradāya /nātha paramparā.

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 11:50 PM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Toke,
>
> > I think what they indicate is the succession of teacher and pupil in a
> Vedic intellectual tradition, passing on knowledge and practice
>
>
> The Wikipedia page that your correspondent mentions clearly states that
> the culture/tradition is not limited to the Vedic tradition but pervades
> many other Indian areas /fields/ cultures/ traditions of learning.
>
> The word āchārya is found in the Vedas.
>
> The extremely popular śānti mantra saha nā vavatu etc. is the joint wish
> of the guru and śiṣya.
>
> "asmadāchārya paryantām vandē guruparamparām" is the last part of the
> usual formulaic prayer found in the beginnings of Vedanta discourses like
> those of the Advaitins.
>
> In upadēśa- based mantra japa traditions, praying to the guruparamparā is
> the ordained part of a japa-session.
>
> Nowadays, the word guruśiṣyaparamparā is being used to contrast with the
> mutual 'legal-rational' relationship between teachers and students in the
> 'modern' educational institutes without the memory of a long lineage/order
> of Guru -śiṣya- praśiṣya and so on and an emotional bondage of
> every śiṣya with the immediate Guru in particular and the entire lineage
> /order in general which is found in the  guruśiṣyaparamparā type system.
>
> This order has the name gharānā in hindustānī music  and each gharānā also
> refers to particular 'style' of singing.
>
> One interesting guru(śiṣya)paramparā that finds mention in many spiritual
> traditions is that of nātha sampradāya /nātha paramparā.
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> AN ANALYSIS OF THE CHANGE PROCESS IN THE GURU-DISCIPLE RELATIONSHIP.
>> (VOLUMES I AND II) by GLICK, STEPHEN Ph.D., Temple University, 1983, 582
>> pages; AAT 8311643)
>>
>> I found this from the archives of the Indology list.
>> http://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology_list.indology.
>> info/2013-January/037493.html
>>
>> There could be many many more.
>>
>> I remember a conference announcement on the Indologist itself, on the
>> concept of Guru.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Toke Knudsen <Toke.Knudsen at oneonta.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I received the below question via email. I don't have a handy
>>> reference—can anyone help?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Toke
>>>
>>> =====
>>>
>>> I had a query about the correct usage of the term(s) "guru–shishya" and
>>> "parampara". I think what they indicate is the succession of teacher and
>>> pupil in a Vedic intellectual tradition, passing on knowledge and practice.
>>> But my only "reference" for this is a vague memory plus, um, wikipedia (
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru%E2%80%93shishya_tradition), and I'd
>>> rather not refer to those, ah, sources. What is the correct translation /
>>> explanation, and do you know a good citation or two I can have?
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> INDOLOGY mailing list
>>> INDOLOGY at list.indology.info
>>> indology-owner at list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing
>>> committee)
>>> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options
>>> or unsubscribe)
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Nagaraj Paturi
>>
>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>>
>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies
>>
>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
>>
>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Nagaraj Paturi
>
> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>
> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies
>
> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
>
> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )
>
>
>
>



-- 
Nagaraj Paturi

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )


-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology/attachments/20161121/f249f2ec/attachment.htm>