Dear Toke,

> I think what they indicate is the succession of teacher and pupil in a Vedic intellectual tradition, passing on knowledge and practice

The Wikipedia page that your correspondent mentions clearly states that the culture/tradition is not limited to the Vedic tradition but pervades many other Indian areas /fields/ cultures/ traditions of learning.

The word āchārya is found in the Vedas.

The extremely popular śānti mantra saha nā vavatu etc. is the joint wish of the guru and śiṣya.

"asmadāchārya paryantām vandē guruparamparām" is the last part of the usual formulaic prayer found in the beginnings of Vedanta discourses like those of the Advaitins.

In upadēśa- based mantra japa traditions, praying to the guruparamparā is the ordained part of a japa-session.

Nowadays, the word guruśiṣyaparamparā is being used to contrast with the  mutual 'legal-rational' relationship between teachers and students in the 'modern' educational institutes without the memory of a long lineage/order of Guru -śiṣya- praśiṣya and so on and an emotional bondage of every śiṣya with the immediate Guru in particular and the entire lineage /order in general which is found in the  guruśiṣyaparamparā type system. 

This order has the name gharānā in hindustānī music  and each gharānā also refers to particular 'style' of singing. 

One interesting guru(śiṣya)paramparā that finds mention in many spiritual traditions is that of nātha sampradāya /nātha paramparā.    

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi@gmail.com> wrote:

AN ANALYSIS OF THE CHANGE PROCESS IN THE GURU-DISCIPLE RELATIONSHIP. (VOLUMES I AND II) by GLICK, STEPHEN Ph.D., Temple University, 1983, 582 pages; AAT 8311643)

I found this from the archives of the Indology list. http://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology_list.indology.info/2013-January/037493.html

There could be many many more.

I remember a conference announcement on the Indologist itself, on the concept of Guru.

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Toke Knudsen <Toke.Knudsen@oneonta.edu> wrote:

Hi all,

I received the below question via email. I don't have a handy reference—can anyone help?

Best,

Toke

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I had a query about the correct usage of the term(s) "guru–shishya" and "parampara". I think what they indicate is the succession of teacher and pupil in a Vedic intellectual tradition, passing on knowledge and practice. But my only "reference" for this is a vague memory plus, um, wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru%E2%80%93shishya_tradition), and I'd rather not refer to those, ah, sources. What is the correct translation / explanation, and do you know a good citation or two I can have? 

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Nagaraj Paturi

 

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

 

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

 

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

 

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )

 

 

 

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Nagaraj Paturi

 

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

 

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

 

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

 

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )