Re: [INDOLOGY] Example(s) of ‘ṣr/ष्र्’

[Kevin M. Ryan]

Hello Madhav,

Thank you for this clarification; of course you're right, and for that 
reason, ajuṣran is surely the best "textbook" example. At any rate, I 
took the question to be about attested forms, regardless of etymological 
correctness.

"Genuine," as you've demonstrated as much as anyone, can be problematic. 
Natural languages and orally transmitted texts evolve. If these 
instances of e.g. pariṣritaḥ are of modern provenance, then we can 
dismiss them, but if they're not (all I can say, at least, is that they 
don't seem to be mere typos), things become more interesting: ṣr and śr 
are not ligatures that are normally confused, but in the Mādhyaṃdina ŚB, 
we have both pariṣritaḥ and pariśritaḥ attested in interspersed loci 
across the text (albeit the latter about ten times as frequently). E.g. 
10.4.3[13] tadyā́ḥ pariṣrítaḥ. If this is some phonologically motivated 
variation, such as a misapplication of RUKI, such non-standard 
attestations have linguistic value, as they do in texts like the RV, 
which is of course replete with such variants. In this case, I don't 
know the first thing about it, but it looks interesting.

Best,
Kevin




On 3/10/16 10:03 AM, Madhav Deshpande wrote:
> Hello Kevin,
>
>       Of the instances of "ṣr" that you have collected from GRETIL, the
> Ṛgvedic instance of ajuṣran is the only one that appears to be a genuine
> instance, while the other occurrences appear to be orthographic variants
> for an original "śr,"  rather than being genuine occurrences of "ṣr".
> In any case, it is good to know that there is at least one genuine
> occurrence of "ṣr" in the form ajuṣran.
>
> Madhav Deshpande
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Kevin M. Ryan
> <kevinryan at fas.harvard.edu <mailto:kevinryan at fas.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Dear Nityanand,
>
>     Here are a few items I found in the GRETIL corpus:
>
>     ajuṣran (RV 1.71.1c)
>     pariṣritaḥ (3x), pariṣrayati (1x), miṣram (Śatapatha Brāhmaṇa)
>     zuṣrūṣamāṇānām (Bhāgavata Purāṇa 1.1.13)
>
>     It could also in principle be found across a word boundary, when a
>     word is left to stand with final ṣ (e.g. jyotiṣ rajas, Nirukta).
>
>     Best,
>     Kevin
>
>
>     On 3/10/16 5:07 AM, Nityanand Misra wrote:
>
>         Dear list
>
>         In Ulrich Stiehl’s list of 807 conjuncts attested in Sanskrit, the
>         two-consonant conjunct ‘ṣr’ (ष्र्) is listed as the 786th entry (third
>         from left in last line of page 4 of the PDF under
>         http://www.sanskritweb.net/sansdocs/mathe.pdf
>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sanskritweb.net_sansdocs_mathe.pdf&d=CwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=NqkhTuN1wmPpoGV7HfN9h9sjzhrforkotCX8AEc5N5k&m=T1yGJ4gkH2cWr1p5tJNmgNB9XLFojdwa1DNLjqiV7hM&s=uiqXFlvyBBXF5bZD0pXg1ZaS4jKsh2xZmOPYoIwiJRY&e=>
>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sanskritweb.net_sansdocs_mathe.pdf&d=CwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=NqkhTuN1wmPpoGV7HfN9h9sjzhrforkotCX8AEc5N5k&m=I2YYnpny_JHcilQBv0xpTkUgPu2gNjPwORPDYANfhnY&s=HkqxA0_r_eDluRij4xM7zMHZVLLHzba0JOX-99c58Ac&e=>).
>
>         I have been unable to trace any word in which this conjunct
>         would occur
>         in Sanskrit.
>
>         Prefix and infix expression search on Advanced search on Monier
>         Williams, Vācaspatyam, and Śabdakalpadrumaḥ yielded no result
>         (except
>         for क्ष्रौम् in M-W which has the three-syllable conjunct kṣr)
>
>         Does anybody know of an example of a word or verse/sentence in
>         which the
>         usage of this conjunct is attested?
>
>         Thanks, Nityanand
>
>
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