[INDOLOGY] amsala

David and Nancy Reigle dnreigle at gmail.com
Wed Jun 29 17:47:28 UTC 2016


With this tip from Steven, I was able to see that M. A. Mehendale's article
on aṃsala is included in *Madhu-vidyā: Prof. Madhukar Anant Mehendale
Collected Papers* (Ahmedabad: L. D. Institute of Indology, 2001). It was
reprinted there on pp. 139-142. If no one comes up with a PDF sooner, I can
scan this later today. This book, by the way, is 736 pages, filled with his
valuable articles.

Best regards,

David Reigle
Colorado, U.S.A.

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:57 AM, Lindquist, Steven <slindqui at mail.smu.edu>
wrote:

> See also:
>
> Mehendale, M.A.  1977.  "aṃśalá" in *Beiträge zur Indienforschung** Ernst
> Waldschmidt **zum 80*, Berlin: Museum für Ind. Kunst, pp. 315-318.
>
>
> In an unfortunate twist, my PDF of the article is apparently corrupted.  I
> will look for the paper copy in my files, but until then if anyone happens
> to have a PDF easily available, that would be much appreciated.
>
>
> My best,
>
>
> Steven
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> From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info> on behalf of Madhav
> Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu>
> Date: Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 2:59 PM
> To: Herman Tull <hermantull at gmail.com>
> Cc: Indology <indology at list.indology.info>
> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] amsala
>
> Hello Dermot and Herman,
>
> At least in Pāṇini's understanding, the words vatsa+la and aṃsa+la are
> derived respectively in the sense of kāma "love" and bala "strength,"
> sūtra: vatsāṃsābhyāṃ kāmabale (P. 5.2.98).  Thus, for Pāṇini, these words
> mean "loving, affectionate" and "strong," respectively.  That meaning for
> aṃsala would not fit the Śatapatha passage: aśnāmy evāham aṃsalaṃ ced
> bhavati, suggesting that the word had some other meaning making the meat
> more edible/desirable, and hence "tender" is a likely contextual meaning.
> May be "plump, juicy".
>
> Madhav Deshpande
>
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Herman Tull <hermantull at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Dermot,
>>
>> I worked on this 30 years ago,​ and I remember asking the exact same
>> question. If memory serves correctly (and it may be
>> ​unreliable
>>  here), I believe Sayana's commentary
>> ​is
>>  helpful here
>> ​ in getting to Eggeling's definition​
>> .
>>>> (I'm away from my library right now, and I cannot check
>> ​.​
>> )​
>>
>> ​Herman
>>
>> Herman Tull
>> Princeton, NJ
>> On Jun 25, 2016 11:19 AM, <dermot at grevatt.force9.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone help with a bit of brAhmaNa interpretation?
>>>
>>> Monier-Williams and Mayrhofer both say aMsala means "strong", connecting
>>> it with aMsa
>>> "shoulder". Mayrhofer adds that it's used mainly with reference to
>>> cattle and meat.
>>>
>>> In xatapatha brAhmaNa 3.1.2.21 Eggeling translates it "tender".
>>>
>>> The context is a prohibition on eating beef -- apparently not for
>>> everyone at all times, but for
>>> someone undertaking dIkSA. After an arthavAda justifying the
>>> prohibition, YAjnavalkya is
>>> quoted as saying "axnAmy evAham aMsalaM ced bhavati."
>>>
>>> Eggeling: "I, for one, eat it, provided that it is tender."
>>>
>>> Is there any evidence for a meaning "tender", or is Eggeling taking a
>>> liberty to give
>>> YAjnavalkya a good punch line?
>>>
>>> I realise that ancient Indian diet can be a sensitive issue, but the
>>> question here seems to be
>>> about YAjnavalkya's culinary preference.
>>>
>>> I'd be grateful for any clarification.
>>>
>>> Dermot
>>>
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