[INDOLOGY] Eating flesh of a jogi, a magician, a healer

Mon Apr 25 19:11:17 UTC 2016

sorry for the mistake :

the girl eats *his *grandmother’s flesh ,

correction:

the girl eats *her *grandmother’s flesh

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 12:24 AM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
wrote:

> “The meaning of cannibalism is that , by consuming your enemy , you
> inherit his powers. In “The Story of the Grandmother” , a folk version of
> “Little Red Riding Hood” the girl eats his grandmother’s flesh and drinks
> her blood, which has an ambiguous purpose; she is accused of cannibalism,
> but a deeper implication is that she acquires the wisdom of the progenitrix
> which helps her trick the wolf/werewolf. This notion of ingesting the older
> often took the form of ritual meals. To eat a symbolical figure signified
> receiving magical power.”
> ----- Folktales and Fairy Tales: Traditions and Texts from around the
> World
>
> By Donald Haase Ph.D., Anne E. Duggan Ph.D., pp 364-365
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:51 PM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Prof. Karp,
>>
>> You must be aware of these words from the Bible. “You Must Eat My Flesh”
>> I found a discussion here:
>>
>> http://www.desiringgod.org/articles/what-jesus-meant-when-he-said-you-must-eat-my-flesh
>>
>> There are huge number of pages discussing these biblical words.
>>
>> What struck me is, Jesus the Guru figure asks to eat his flesh and drink
>> his blood.
>>
>> There seems to be some esoteric or mystic similarity between the two
>> expressions.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -N
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY <
>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
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>>> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 18:02:02 +0000 (UTC)
>>> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Eating flesh of a jogi, a magician, a healer
>>> The principle is basically the same - there is a special power in the
>>> remains of those considered to be spiritually advanced. Compare European
>>> saintly relics.
>>>
>>> Grisly, indeed.
>>>
>>> Dean
>>>
>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Artur Karp <karp at uw.edu.pl>
>>> *To:* Dean Michael Anderson <eastwestcultural at yahoo.com>
>>> *Cc:* Dipak Bhattacharya <dipak.d2004 at gmail.com>; indology <
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>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2016 10:39 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Eating flesh of a jogi, a magician, a healer
>>>
>>> In Śahr Safidon ki Kahani it is the guru (Dhanthar Baid, Mbh.'s
>>> Dhanvantari) who orders his disciples to cut and and eat his body - so that
>>> his healing powers would not be lost.
>>>
>>> Best, also -
>>>
>>> Artur
>>>
>>> 2016-04-25 18:35 GMT+02:00 Dean Michael Anderson <
>>> eastwestcultural at yahoo.com>:
>>>
>>> The place to look would be the texts and tales of "left-handed" tantra.
>>> I'm not familiar with the older texts but I do know that in places with
>>> famous burning grounds like Varanasi and Kathmandu the families guard the
>>> bodies to prevent tantriks from eating the flesh of the deceased. I have
>>> read about this in modern stories, and talked to people who have seen it.
>>> It is certainly very much still alive in the minds of modern Indians and
>>> Nepalis.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Dean Anderson
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Artur Karp <karp at uw.edu.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>> In "Śahr Safidon ki kahani" (published by Richard Temple, The Legends
>>> of the Panjab , Vol. I (No XVI,
>>> 
>>> Princess Niwal Daî, As su
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>>> 
>>> Bombay 1884 [Reprints: 1962, 1977] -
>>>
>>> his disciples eat flesh of their Guru, Dhanthar Baid - in order to gain
>>> his powers  Is this motif found somewhere else in Indian narratives?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Artur Karp
>>>
>>> Warsaw
>>> Poland
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>> --
>> Nagaraj Paturi
>>
>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>>
>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies
>>
>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
>>
>> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )
>>
>>
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>
>
>
> --
> Nagaraj Paturi
>
> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>
> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies
>
> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
>
> (Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )
>
>
>
>

-- 
Nagaraj Paturi

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )

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