[INDOLOGY] Indian printed books

Patrick Olivelle jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu
Tue Apr 21 15:04:47 UTC 2015


Jean-Luc: not I do not know about the Tamil mss. Keith apparently did just the Sanskrit and Prākṛt ones.

Patrick



On Apr 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Jean-Luc Chevillard <jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr> wrote:

> Dear Patrick,
> 
> I know from direct experience that item 1324 in the catalogue
> (which is a MS of the Kuṟuntokai) is indeed part of the India Office Library, where Eva Wilden was able to consult it
> (and I also saw it with my own eyes),
> but how can one be sure that the India Office Library bought the TOTALITY of his MSS (including the Tamil ones).
> 
> Is it stated in Keith's catalogue?
> 
> I am not sure that the auction that took place on 14-16th january 1884
> was a "sale en bloc"
> 
> -- Jean-Luc
> 
> 
> "https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard"
> 
> "https://plus.google.com/u/0/113653379205101980081/posts/p/pub"
> 
> "https://twitter.com/JLC1956"
> 
> 
> 
> On 21/04/2015 15:57, Patrick Olivelle wrote:
>> I am not sure about Burnell's library of printed books, but his manuscript collection was acquired by the India Office Library (now part of the British Library) and they are catalogued in A. B. Keith's Catalogue of Sanskrit and Prākrit Manuscripts in the LIbrary of the India Office, Oxford, 1935.
>> 
>> Patrick
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 21, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Jean-Luc Chevillard <jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>> while we are on this topic,
>>> and since Rosane Rocher has pointed out the fact that the Book provided by Emmanuel Francis is the catalogue of a private collection,
>>> I would very much like to know
>>> whether the calalogue of another private collection
>>> (see below)
>>> is available in digital form somewhere.
>>> 
>>> A few years ago,
>>> while visiting the British Library,
>>> I had the pleasure a examining a fascinating book,
>>> in which the title page said
>>> (this is copied from my handwritten notes of that day)
>>> 
>>> **************************************
>>> 
>>> CATALOGUE
>>> of the
>>> VALUABLE LIBRARY
>>> of the late
>>> Dr Arthur Coke Burnell, C.I.E.
>>> (Sold by order of the Executors)
>>> comprising
>>> Bibles & Testaments in various Languages,
>>> Early voyages and travels,
>>> Especially to the East Indies and to America;
>>> Numerous Dictionaries and Grammars;
>>> Bibliographical Publications;
>>> and a very extensive collection of
>>> Oriental and East Indian Literature.
>>> 
>>> Which will be sold by Auction
>>> by Messrs.
>>> Sotheby, Wilkinson & Hodge,
>>> Auctioneers of Literary Property & works illustative of the fine arts,
>>> At their House, N° 13, Wellington Street, Strand, W.C.
>>> On Monday, 14th january, 1884, and three following days,
>>> At one o'clock precisely.
>>> 
>>> May be viewed Two Days previously, and Catalogues had.
>>> 
>>> Dryden Press: J. Davy and Sons, 137, Long Acre.
>>> 
>>> ***************************************
>>> 
>>> That copy of catalogue
>>> has a STAMP on it, which reads
>>> "India Office"
>>> "20 AUG 1914"
>>> "Library"
>>> 
>>> *******************
>>> 
>>> I copied by hand enough information to fill 10 pages
>>> in a notebook, but that cannot replace an exact reproduction.
>>> (Is there a PDF on Archive.org? I would like to know)
>>> 
>>> I would also be curious to know what was the fate of Burnell's book:
>>> How many people bought them? Are they now traceable?
>>> 
>>> Arthur Coke Burnell (1840-1882) is certainly a fascinating character!
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any pointers
>>> 
>>> -- Jean-Luc Chevillard (currently in Paris)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "https://univ-paris-diderot.academia.edu/JeanLucChevillard"
>>> 
>>> "https://plus.google.com/u/0/113653379205101980081/posts/p/pub"
>>> 
>>> "https://twitter.com/JLC1956"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 21/04/2015 14:53, Klaus Karttunen wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> I also find the collection rather fascinating. The early Goan prints are
>>>> mentioned in the Preface (and Rajam’s list leaves out Garcia d’Orta –
>>>> perhaps the most fascinating among these early prints). But how was
>>>> South India neglected as at the very beginning books printed at
>>>> Trankebar in Tamil are presented. There is, however, one chapter in the
>>>> (South) Indian printing history often forgotten (and I don’t mention
>>>> this as criticism, just as interesting fact). As early as 1772 Jacob
>>>> Shameer founded an Armenian printing press in Chennai and published some
>>>> religious texts and school books.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Klaus
>>>> 
>>>> Klaus Karttunen
>>>> South Asian and Indoeuropean Studies
>>>> Asian and African Studies, Department of World Cultures
>>>> PL 59 (Unioninkatu 38 B)
>>>> 00014 University of Helsinki, FINLAND
>>>> Tel +358-(0)2941 4482418
>>>> Fax +358-(0)2941 22094
>>>> Klaus.Karttunen at helsinki.fi <mailto:Klaus.Karttunen at helsinki.fi>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 21 Apr 2015, at 05:25, Rosane Rocher <rrocher at sas.upenn.edu
>>>>> <mailto:rrocher at sas.upenn.edu>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you.  Beautiful catalog of a private collection that was offered
>>>>> for sale en bloc, written by Graham Shaw, the now retired British
>>>>> expert on the history of printing in India.  Does anyone know who was
>>>>> the collector, if the sale went through, and, if it did, who acquired
>>>>> this collection?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rosane Rocher
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 4/20/15 4:52 PM, Manu Francis wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For those interested in the history of printing in India, I have just
>>>>>> found this on the www by chance:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.booksofasia.com/PDFs/From%2520Conversion%2520to%2520Subversion%2520-%2520250%2520years%2520of%2520the%2520printed%2520book%2520in%2520India%2520_%2520030814B.pdf&sa=U&ei=j2Q1VbOtBs32O5jtgOgL&ved=0CAQQFjAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNEp7lvmvFjo7T7xLn8MCgDjus9r3Q
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [[I hope the link will work]]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> With best wishes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Emmanuel Francis
>>>>>> Chargé de recherche CNRS, Centre d'étude de l'Inde et de l'Asie du
>>>>>> Sud (UMR 8564, EHESS-CNRS, Paris)
>>>>>> http://ceias.ehess.fr/
>>>>>> http://ceias.ehess.fr/index.php?1725
>>>>>> http://rcsi.hypotheses.org/
>>>>>> Associate member, Centre for the Study of Manuscript Culture (SFB
>>>>>> 950, Universität Hamburg)
>>>>>> http://www.manuscript-cultures.uni-hamburg.de/index_e.html
>>>>>> https://cnrs.academia.edu/emmanuelfrancis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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