[INDOLOGY] query: 18 ;sre.nii jaatis

[Dr. T. Ganesan]

It is also common in rural Tamilnadu to say "????? ???? ????????? ????" 
"paLLi paRaiya patineTTu cAti" meaning people of 18 jati-s including the 
paLLi, paRaiya, etc. to convey that so many people belonging to all 
castes are assembled, say, for the temple festival, etc.
Ganesan


On 06-10-2013 16:22, Madhav Deshpande wrote:
> Dear Patrick,
>
>      In continuation of Ashok's suggestion, I want to point out that 
> there is an expression in Marathi ???? ??? ???? "18 types of Ja-tis".  
> Some of the Ja-tinirn.aya texts produced by Marathi Pandits may have 
> some local listings similar to what Ashok has given.  I have one or 
> two such texts, and will check if they have any list of 18 Ja-tis.
>
> Madhav
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Ashok Aklujkar 
> <ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com <mailto:ashok.aklujkar at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Patrick,
>
>     There may be regional variations and overlaps but in Maharashtra
>     they are (according to one dictionary, with approximate translations):
>
>     taamba.ta 'coppersmith,'
>     paatharava.ta 'stone-cutter,'
>     lohaara 'ironsmith,
>     sutaara 'carpenter,'
>     sonaara, 'goldsmith,
>     kaasaara 'bangle-maker &/or seller,'
>     kumbhaara 'potter,
>     gurava ' local non-brahmin priest,'
>     dhanagara 'sheep-keeper.'
>     gava.lii 'milkaman,'
>     vaa.nii 'grocery merchant,'
>     Jaina,
>     ko.s.tii 'weaver,'
>     saa.lii,
>     citaarii 'painter (= picture artist?),''
>     maa.lii 'flower-grower &/or seller,'
>     telii 'oilman,'
>     ra:ngaarii 'painter  (of walls etc.).
>
>     If Deva.n.na-bha.tta is an author from Maharashtra-Karnataka area,
>     his intended list should be largely similar, although his rajaka,
>     if intended in the sense 'washerman,' as distinct from 'one who
>     colors cloth (with indigo etc.)', is not there. In the other
>     sense, it could be covered by ra:ngaarii or citaarii .
>
>     I would be interested in knowing any different explanations or
>     listings you get.
>
>     a.a.
>
>
>     On 2013-10-05, at 12:12 PM, Patrick Olivelle wrote:
>
>     Friends:
>
>     Devan.n.abhat.t.a in his Smr.ticandrika- (Mysore edition, p. 40;
>     Gharpure ed. p. 18) commenting on the term s'ren.i says:
>
>     s'ren.yo rajaka-dyas.t.a-das'ahi-naja-tayah. |
>


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