Tibeten~Sanskrit Idiom Query

[Andrey Klebanov]

just to follow up briefly on the Aṣṭāṅgahṛdaya-issue.
the tibetan translation does, in fact, read nyan du mi btub, on which Vogel's edition (p.74) notes: 
-- avidheya "disobedient" has been paraphrized by nyan du mi btub, which literally means "unable to obey". --

Aruṇadatta's commentary (s. Dominik's mail), which seems to be a literal quote from Candrananda's Padārthacandikā runs thus in the tibetan translation of the latter (rather unspectacularly):
nyan du mi btub pa ni sman pa'i bsgo ba mi byed pa gang yin pa de yang spang par bya'o

best,
Andrey

On 22.06.2011, at 18:45, Dominik Wujastyk wrote:

> It's at my elbow, so 
> 
> Aṣṭāṅgahṛdaya 1.1.34:
> 
> tyajed ārtaṃ bhiṣagbhūpair dviṣṭaṃ teṣāṃ dviṣaṃ dviṣam/ 
> hīnopakaraṇam vyagram avidheyaṃ gatāyuṣam // 34 //
> 
> From my Roots tr.:
> One should not accept a patient who is hated by physicians and kings alike, or who has long hated them.  Nor should one accept a person who does not have any medical necessities, who is distracted, unbiddable [avidheyam], or whose life has run out.
> 
> "dviṣaṃ dviṣam" is, I believe, an intensive reduplication of the rare indeclinable gerund form in -am.  Macdonell paragraph 166.    Opinions?
> 
> On avidheya, the commentator Aruṇadatta says "avidheyaṃ - bhiṣajaḥ, tadājñāṃ yo na karoti, tam api tyajet" i..e., who doesn't do as he's told.  Hemādri says, "avidheyaṃ - vaidyasyānadhīnam" i.e., not obedient to the doctor. 
> 
> 
> Best,
> Dominik
> 
> 
> 
> Best,
> Dominik
> 
> 
> On 22 June 2011 18:22, Ronald Davidson <rdavidson at fairfield.edu> wrote:
> Dear Stephen and colleagues,
> 
> Lokesh Chandra's Tibetan-Sanskrit Dictionary, Supplementary Volume, p. 683a
> lists avidheya as an equivalent attested from the Aṣṭāṅgahṛdaya 1.1.34,
> although this may be of very limited application in the Vinaya context.
> 
> As Dorji Wangchuk just mentioned, this is a form that suggests an injunctive
> force, and it may be worthy of noting that mi btub appears to be equivalent
> to abhavya in the Mahāvyutpatti 9135 : abhavyo haritvāya : sngon por 'gyur
> du mi rung ba 'am mi btub.
> 
> Ron Davidson
> 
> 
> > From: Stephen Hodge <s.hodge at PADMACHOLING.PLUS.COM>
> > Reply-To: Stephen Hodge <s.hodge at PADMACHOLING.PLUS.COM>
> > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 04:22:10 +0100
> > To: <INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk>
> > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Tibeten~Sanskrit Idiom Query
> >
> > Dear Tibetanist Colleagues,
> >
> > I have the expression "nyan-du mi-btub/ma-btub" which occurs about a dozen
> > or so times in the Kanjur, particularly in the 'Dul-ba section.  Has anybody
> > come across or can suggest a reliable / attested Sanskrit origin for this ~
> > contextually it seems to mean "disregard / ignore" something said.  I have
> > looked in all the obvious sources, but cannot find anything.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Stephen Hodge
> 



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