yugas and colours

JKirkpatrick jkirk at SPRO.NET
Sat Oct 31 17:51:07 UTC 2009


Of course it's CE, not BCE.  None of the Tamil works can be dated
to BCE -- though we do have inscriptions from the first couple
centuries BCE.

The Tamil is

  paaz ena kaal ena paaku ena onRu ena pari.3-77
  iraNTu ena muunRu ena naanku ena aintu ena pari.3-78
  aaRu ena eezu ena eTTu ena toNTu ena pari.3-79
  naalvakai uuzi eN naviRRum ciRappinai pari.3-80
  ce kaN kaari karu kaN veLLai pari.3-81
  pon kaN paccai pai kaN maaal pari.3-82

(Malten's transcription)

"Black" is from kaari, ultimately from karu, the standard word
for "black."  "Dark" is maal, which can mean "blackness" or
"great man," "Visnu."  "Dark one with green eyes" could also mean
"Green-eyed Visnu!" -- which might make more sense, as "black"
has already been used.  The word for "green" can also mean

George Hart

On Oct 31, 2009, at 8:00 AM, JKirkpatrick wrote:

> I'm curious as to what are the words for "black" and "dark" in
> typology?
> The usual colors cropping up in such typologies are white, red,

> yellow, and blue/green/black.
> JK
> =============
> On Behalf Of George Hart
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:04 AM
> From ParipaTal 3, about the 3rd or 4th century BCE:
> Your wonder is such that you are counted through four kinds of
> eons: zero, quarter, half, one, two three, four, five, six,
> eight, nine!  Black one with red eyes!  White one with black
> Green one with golden eyes!  Dark one with green eyes!
> George Hart
> On Oct 30, 2009, at 11:10 PM, Dominic Goodall wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> Can anybody tell me whether the notion that Vi.s.nu changes
> colour in
>> each yuga predates the Bhaagavatapuraa.na?
>> BhP_10.08.013/1 aasan var.naas trayo hy asya g.rh.nato
> 'nuyuga.m
>> tanuu.h
>> BhP_10.08.013/3 "suklo raktas tathaa piita idaanii.m
> k.r.s.nataa.m
>> gata.h
>> I find it in a few passages excluded from the critical text of
> the
>> Mahaabhaarata, e.g.
>> 13*0002_01 ya.h "svetatvam upaagata.h k.rtayuge tretaayuge
> raktataa.m
>> 13*0002_02 yugme ya.h kapila.h kalau sa bhagavaan k.r.s.natvam

>> abhyaagata.h
>> Does anybody know of any demonstrably early references?
>> Dominic Goodall

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