Source of Brahminhood
Patrick Olivelle
jpo at UTS.CC.UTEXAS.EDU
Fri Oct 6 01:24:57 UTC 2006
Palaniappan and all: the Vajrasuuci is actually a Buddhist polemical
text ascribed to Asvaghosa, but probably much later, perhaps in the
6th century. So, this is not a Brahmanical position, but a Buddhist
satirical comment on the so-called purity of Brahmins by showing that
even Vyaasa had a problematic parentage.
>
>I have found an almost identical verse in vajrasuuci (23)
>
>kaivartiigarbhasambhuuto vyaaso naama mahaamuni.h|
>tapasaa braahma.no jaatastasmaajjaatirakaara.nam||23||
>(See _http://www.uwest.edu/sanskritcanon/Sastra/Roman/sastra20.html_
>(http://www.uwest.edu/sanskritcanon/Sastra/Roman/sastra20.html) )
>
>Is the presence of such verses in the Hindu texts to be attributed to
>interpolation due to the influence of Buddhism/Jainism?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Regards,
>S. Palaniappan
>
>In a message dated 10/4/2006 6:56:03 A.M. Central Standard Time,
>sanjay.kumar at MAIL.MCGILL.CA writes:
>
>The verse you mentioned is perhaps from the Uttara-gita, published by the
>Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute, Pune. The Critical Edition of the
>Mahabharata notes a conversation between Kr.s.n.a and Duryodhana in the star
>passage after 5.92.37, where Kr.s.n.a gives reasons for having meals
>at Vidura's
>house:
>
>kaivarti-garbha-sambhuto vyaso nama mahamunih. tapasa brahman.o jatas tasmaj
>jatir na karan.am.
>
>
>
>Sanjay Kumar
>
>McGill University
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: Indology on behalf of Sudalaimuthu Palaniappan
>Sent: Tue 03/10/2006 11:21 PM
>To: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
>Subject: Source of Brahminhood
>
>
>
>Dear Indologists,
>
>Can anybody tell me the source and date of the verse "mastsyagandhastu
>tanayo veda vyasa....tasmad jaatirna kaaranam" ? This verse is used by
>some to
>argue that according to Hindu tradition a Brahmin is indeed born through
>austerities and Brahminhood is not the result of physical birth.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Regards,
>S. Palaniappan
>
>
>
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