INDOLOGY Digest - 15 Oct 2005 to 19 Oct 2005 (#2005-67)

[Wendy Doniger]

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> Topics of the day:
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>   1. teaching the Arthasastra (4)
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> From: Allen W Thrasher <athr at LOC.GOV>
> Date: October 19, 2005 8:09:33 AM CDT
> Subject: teaching the Arthasastra
>
>
> Can anyone suggest which translation of the Arthasastra would be  
> best for a professor of political science to add to a general  
> graduate level course on political theory, and also which  
> background material to recommend both for him to learn about the  
> book and to commend to his students?  His training is solely in  
> Western poltical thought.
>
> This is posted on both H-Asia and Indology.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Allen Thrasher
>
> Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D., Senior Reference Librarian
> South Asia Team, Asian Division
> Library of Congress, Jefferson Building 150
> 101 Independence Ave., S.E.
> Washington, DC 20540-4810
> tel. 202-707-3732; fax 202-707-1724; athr at loc.gov
> The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the  
> Library of Congress.
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> From: Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei at UCHICAGO.EDU>
> Date: October 19, 2005 8:42:23 AM CDT
> Subject: Re: teaching the Arthasastra
>
>
> Probably Rangarajan's trans. in the Penguin Classics
> series is the best for non-Indologists, though many
> within the field consider his rearrangements of
> the text unwarranted. J. Duncan Derrett's article
> on "Social and Political Thought and Institutions,"
> in Basham's _A Cultural History of India_ makes a
> useful general introduction to the domain on behalf
> of the general reader. Hartmut Scharfe, _Investigations in
> Kautilya's Manual of Political Science_, 2nd ed. 1993,
> is useful for probing more deeply, and Kangle's ed. and trans.
> remains the best version overall. Zimmer's discussion in
> _Philosophies of India_ is of course quite dated, but it makes
> a good read, introduces aspects of the ancient Indian political
> ethos accurately enough, and so may be recommended to arouse
> student interest, though this perhaps applies more to undergrads
> than to graduate students.
>
> Matthew Kapstein
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>
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> From: Patrick Olivelle <jpo at UTS.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
> Date: October 19, 2005 9:40:42 AM CDT
> Subject: Re: teaching the Arthasastra
>
>
> Allen: the only good and accurate translation is by Kangle. His  
> three-volume work originally published by the University of Bombay  
> has recently been reprintd by Motilal. Try to keep him from the  
> Penguin translation by Rangarajan, who has not training in the  
> field (his degree was in Physics and he was a foreign service  
> officer) and has also mutilated the text by shifting passages around.
>
> Patrick
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>> Can anyone suggest which translation of the Arthasastra would be  
>> best for a professor of political science to add to a general  
>> graduate level course on political theory, and also which  
>> background material to recommend both for him to learn about the  
>> book and to commend to his students?  His training is solely in  
>> Western poltical thought.
>>
>> This is posted on both H-Asia and Indology.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Allen Thrasher
>>
>> Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D., Senior Reference Librarian
>> South Asia Team, Asian Division
>> Library of Congress, Jefferson Building 150
>> 101 Independence Ave., S.E.
>> Washington, DC 20540-4810
>> tel. 202-707-3732; fax 202-707-1724; athr at loc.gov
>> The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the  
>> Library of Congress.
>>
>>
>>
>
> From: lmfosse at CHELLO.NO
> Date: October 19, 2005 9:04:52 AM CDT
> Subject: Re: teaching the Arthasastra
>
>
> Hello Allen,
>
> I am teaching the Arthashastra this semester. Kangle's translation  
> is best. Here is the reading list I have given my student:
>
> Obligatory material
>
> Hartmut Scharfe: Investigations in Kautalya’s Manual of Political  
> Science. Harrassowitz Verlag 1993. s. 102-251, 275-293) (167 sider)
>
> Lars Martin Fosse: The Crux of Chronology in Sanskrit Literature.  
> Statistics and Indology. A Study of Method. Oslo 1997. (side 73-82).
>
> J. Heesterman: Kautilya and the Ancient Indian State. I: The Inner  
> Conflict of Tradition. s. 128-141 (13 sider)
>
> Patrick Olivelle: Manu and the Arthashastra. Journal of Indian  
> Philosophy, 32: 281-291, 2004. (10 sider)
>
> Maria Schetelich: Die mandala-Theorie in Artha- und Nitisastra. I:  
> Recht, Staat und Verwaltung im klassischen Indien. Herausgegeben  
> von Bernard Kölver. München 1997, s. 211-237. (26 sider)
>
> Eva Ritschl: Überlegungen zu atavi und anderen Gruppen der Anarya- 
> Bevölkerung im alten Indian nach Sanskritquellen. I: Recht, Staat  
> und Verwaltung im klassischen Indien. Herausgegeben von Bernard  
> Kölver. München 1997, s. 245-253. (8 sider)
>
> J. Duncan M. Derrett: Rajadharma. The Journal of Asian Studies,  
> Vol. 35, No. 4, 1976, s. 597-609. (12 sider)
>
> Thomas R. Trautmann: A Metrical Original for the Kautiliya  
> Arthasastra?. Journal of the American Oriental Society, Vol. 88,  
> No. 2, 1968, 347-349. (2 sider)
>
> George Modelski: Kautilya: Foreign Policy and International System  
> in the Ancient Hindu World. The American Political Science Review,  
> Vol. 58, No. 3, 1964, 549-560. (11 sider). Tilsammen: 258 sider
>
> Other material:
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> John W. Spellman: Political Theory of Ancient India. A Study of  
> Kingship from th earliest times to circa A.D. 300. Oxford 1964.
>
> Bernhardt Breloer: Kautilya-Studien (1927-34)
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> Sten Konow: Kautilya Studies, 1945.
>
> Friedrich Wilhelm: Politische Polemiken im Staatslehrbuch  
> Kautilyas. Wiesbaden 1960.
>
> Paul Hacker: Anvikshiki, WZKSO 2, 1958. (See also Kleine Schriften).
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> Otto Stein: Megasthenes und Kautilya. Wien, 1921
>
> P. V. Kane: History of Dharmashastra. Poona 1968. (Chap. 14, big  
> section on the Arthashastra, more than a 100 pages).
>
> Harry Falk: Die Prüfung der Beamten im Arthashastra, Wiener  
> Zeitschrift für die Kunde Südasiens, bind. 30, 1986. p. 65ff.
>
> Trautmann's statistical study of the AS is probably too off-beat  
> for a professor of politics.
>
> Lars Martin
>
>
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>> fra: Allen W Thrasher <athr at LOC.GOV>
>> dato: 2005/10/19 on PM 03:09:33 MEST
>> til: INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk
>> emne: teaching the Arthasastra
>>
>> Can anyone suggest which translation of the Arthasastra would be  
>> best for a professor of political science to add to a general  
>> graduate level course on political theory, and also which  
>> background material to recommend both for him to learn about the  
>> book and to commend to his students?  His training is solely in  
>> Western poltical thought.
>>
>> This is posted on both H-Asia and Indology.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Allen Thrasher
>>
>> Allen W. Thrasher, Ph.D., Senior Reference Librarian
>> South Asia Team, Asian Division
>> Library of Congress, Jefferson Building 150
>> 101 Independence Ave., S.E.
>> Washington, DC 20540-4810
>> tel. 202-707-3732; fax 202-707-1724; athr at loc.gov
>> The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the  
>> Library of Congress.
>>
>>
>>
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