center of being

[John Robert Gardner]

I could also add there is a cursory survey of the uses of -man with
brahman in the early and late RV, discussed in my dissertation, online at
http://vedavid.org/diss/,  use the pull-down menu top left to select
chapter four (4), then 5, and on the right, after selecting 4 or five,
choose the section on mental faculties.  It is brief, but juxtaposes -man,
-cit, and dhii viz. brahman.

Per MW, definitely, a detailed study is warranted!

jr

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On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Michael Witzel wrote:

> >Any comments about a general observation that Indians identify their center
> >of being as exisiting within their chest and their center of feelings as
> >being in the lower abdomen; whereas Westerners identify their center as
> >being in the head and their center of feelings in the chest?
>
>
> Since the Vedas:
> manas 'mind' is occasionally connected with 'heart'; and *more often* than
> one might think.
>
> while the connection of Manas and Vaac is much more prominent,  there are
> quite a few quotes which clearly establish the connection between Manas and
> the heart, see especially below, ZB and JUB... But there is some connection
> between the two already in the early Yajurveda texts (c. 1000 BCE), Maitr.
> Samhita (MS) etc.:
>
> Ordered by text level:
>
> Early Yajurveda Samhitas and Brahmanas:
>
> hRdasyaavadyati, manasa eva tenaavadyati  MS 3.10.3
>
> mano haardim yaccha  MS 1.2.18
>
> mano hRdaye (pratitiSThitam)  TS 3.10.8.6;  ZaankhAr. 11.6
>
> (vaag ca vai manaz ca devaanaaM mithunam  AB 5.13)
>
>
>
> later Brahmanas/early Upanisads:
>
> !!       kasmin nu manaH pratiSThitaM bhavatiiti hRdaya iti   ZB 14.6.9.25
>
> !!  sa eSa hRdaH kaamaanaaM puurNo, yan manaH   JUB 1.18.3.3
>
> aatmaa vai mano hRdayam  ZB 3.8.3.6
>
> kaamaH saMkalpo vicikitsaa zraddhaa 'zraddhaa dhRtir adhRtir hriir
> dhaarbhiir ity etat sarvaM mana evA  ZB 14.4.3.9
>
> na saMdRzo tiSThati ruupam asya,  na cakSuSaa pazyati kaiz cainainam /
> hRdaa maniiSaa manasaabhigupto, ya etad viduramRtAste bhavanti
>   KathSamkalanam 104: 9-10
>
> hRt-pratiSThaM yad ajaraM yaviSThaM, tan me manaH zivaM saMkalpam astu
> KathSamk. 134: 11
>
> (yat tapa iti manasvat JB 3.360)
>
> cf. also:
>
> yad dhy eva manasaa kaamayeta, tad vaacaa vadati JB 3.349
>
>
>
> Late Vedic :
>
> hRdasya reto mano, manaso vaak Ait.Ar. 2.1.3
>
> hRdayaan mano manasaz candramaaH  AitAr. 2.4.1, Ait Up. 2.14
>
> prajaanaaM reto hRdayaM, hRdayasya reto manaH  AitAr. 2.1.3
>
> And the most complex one, closer to what you might see in Pali:
>
> yad etad hRdayaM manaz caitat  saMjJaanam AjJaanaM vijJaanaM prajJaanaM
> medhaa dRSTir dhRtir muurtir maniiSaa juutiH smRtiH saMkalpaH kratur asuH
> kaamo vaza iti sarvaaNy evaitaani prajJaanasya naamadheyaani bhavanti
> Ait Ar. 2.6.1
>
>
> I hope this helps..... we really need a detailed study....
> Michael Witzel
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>
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