Dear Mr. Kapstein,
You are right, I could have kept it shorter for the sake of clarity.
I see no reason whatsoever to even suggest not using 'lib gen.'
Raising the issue, especially in the context of the current excess from Springer (not from the authors, obviously), is (in my eyes) both faint morality and slightly obscene.
No offense intended.
Kindly,
Dr. Karl-Stéphan Bouthillette
Assistant Professor, Department of Philosophy (DoP)
Dr. Karl-Stéphan Bouthillette
Assistant Professor, Department of Philosophy (DoP)
Manipal Academy of Higher Education (MAHE)
6th floor, Advanced Research Centre (ARC), Tower 3
MAHE, Manipal – 576104, INDIA
Tel: +91 82029 37750
Extension: 37756
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Sent: 14 February 2023 09:18
To: Karl-Stephan Bouthillette <karl-stephan.bouthillette.1@ulaval.ca>; indology@list.indology.info <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: New Publication on Logical Thought in India
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Subject: Re: New Publication on Logical Thought in India
Dear Mr. Bouthillette,
You write
There is something slightly obscene in seeing the faint morality of our comfortable professorial colleagues even suggesting that
sites like 'lib gen' might infringe (their) authorial rights.
But in fact, no party to the discussion wrote anything that would warrant this comment.
It was agreed by all, I think, that Springer’s outrageous pricing is the problem. And there was no suggestion that
the authors benefit from this, so it is not quite clear what you’re saying here.
cordially ,
Matthew Kapstein
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Subject: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
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Subject: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
I would like to begin by congratulating the authors for their hard work on the "Handbook of Logical Thought in India."
No doubt there is something in there worth the read.
Yet, perhaps to add to the discussion, for anyone actually working in India, and perhaps especially in indological fields, one wonders what logic, if any, is there behind such a price tag.
Colleagues may play the good political game of highlighting the criminality of copyrights infringement related to sites like 'lib gen,' yet without these doing research in the Global South would be an almost impossible project at the moment. Public libraries
are too often outdated and private ones must carefully decide what to acquire.
I remember doing research work at JNU at a time before 'lib gen.' Most books on Indian philosophy were at least 40 years old. I do hope it changed on the bookshelves. But I know that 'lib gen' changed the game for sure.
There is something slightly obscene in seeing the faint morality of our comfortable professorial colleagues even suggesting that sites like 'lib gen' might infringe (their) authorial rights.
And at the same time seeing a book on 'Indian logic' available at the illogical cost of more than a full month salary for most of my colleagues in Indian institutions.
Even a certain Netflix-like payment a month is not necessarily something our students can afford.
Should we forbid them the most convenient and obvious way to get access to international research?
Let it be my defence of pedagogical piracy in an age of corporate pirates.
I was delighted to see my book on these Websites as soon as it got out...
I hope all the others will land there too.
Cordially,
Dr. Karl-Stéphan Bouthillette
Assistant Professor, Department of Philosophy (DoP)
Dr. Karl-Stéphan Bouthillette
Assistant Professor, Department of Philosophy (DoP)
Manipal Academy of Higher Education (MAHE)
6th floor, Advanced Research Centre (ARC), Tower 3
MAHE, Manipal – 576104, INDIA
Tel: +91 82029 37750
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3. Re: Articles on the development of the idea of Shiva (Harry Spier)
4. Article request (Michael Gollner)
5. Re: New Publication on Logical Thought in India (Dominik Wujastyk)
6. Re: New Publication on Logical Thought in India
(Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica)
7. Re: New Publication on Logical Thought in India (Matthew Kapstein)
8. Re: New Publication on Logical Thought in India (Jonathan Silk)
9. Re: New Publication on Logical Thought in India (Matthew Kapstein)
10. LakshmiDhar Kavi (alakendu das)
11. Re: Articles on the development of the idea of Shiva
(Shubha Pathak)
12. Re: Articles on the development of the idea of Shiva (Harry Spier)
13. Re: Proceedings of WSC: Digital Humanities and Computational
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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 15:15:31 +0300
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>From the Wikipedia article on shadow libraries:
Content hosted by some shadow libraries may be hosted without the consent of the original owners of the material. This may make some shadow libraries illegal<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime>
MK
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From: Evgeniya Desnitskaya <khecari@yandex.ru>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2023 1:15:31 PM
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- bvparishat@, jaysoni05@, listserv@, ssarukkai@
Wikipedia describes it as a 'shadow library'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_Genesis
In fact, it is a place where you can get a major part of contemporary indological books.
--
Evgeniya Desnitskaya
Institute of Oriental Manuscripts
Russian Academy of Sciences
11.02.2023, 14:58, "Matthew Kapstein" <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>:
Thank you, Evgeniya,
I do not know this site or whether it adheres to appropriate legal conventions.
with regards,
Matthew
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Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
Dear Matthew,
This book is available at Libgen site.
Though, I'm not sure if it is appropriate to add a link on this resour?e.
Best,
Evgeniya
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11.02.2023, 13:23, "Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY" <indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>>:
Thanks, Jay,
I have the good fortune to use a library that has e-access and I can vouch for the considerable interest of the volume. For readers who may not have such connections, however, it is unfortunate that it is prohibitively expensive. May we hope to see a ?cheap? edition some day?
best regards,
Matthew Kapstein
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Subject: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
Dear Colleagues,
On behalf of the editors Sarukkai and Chakraborty, it is my pleasure to bring to your kind attention this new Springer reference work publication:
Handbook of Logical Thought in India
Please find all the publication details here:
https://link.springer.com/referencework/10.1007/978-81-322-2577-5
With thanks and best wishes,
Jay
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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 08:41:43 -0500
From: Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier@gmail.com>
To: indology@list.indology.info
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Articles on the development of the idea of
Shiva
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Thank you to Michael Witzel who pointed me to his edition and translation
of The Katha Aranyaka 2.100 and was kind enough to translate the passage
into english.
And thank you to Corinna Wessels-Mevissen who pointed me to Stella
Kramrisch's The Presence of Shiva. I was pleasantly surprised to see most
(all?) of Stella Kramrisch's books available for e-loan on archive.org.
Harry Spier
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 9:27 AM Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear list members,
> If anyone has any articles on the development of the idea of Shiva.
> Particularly how vedic Rudra became Shiva. Could you forward them to me, or
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Dear list members,
I am looking for an electronic copy of the following article:
B. G. L. Swamy. 1975. ?The Golaki School of Saivism in the Tamil Country.? Journal of Indian History 53: 167-209.
If someone has a copy that they could send me, I would be most grateful.
Many thanks,
Michael
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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 17:31:17 -0700
From: Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>
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The publishing industry today is where the music industry was about two or
three decades ago. Libgen is rather like the original Napster
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napster>. Libgen makes many books
downloadable without any regard for copyright rights or the law generally.
Publishing companies from time to time try to shut down Libgen and its
predecessors like Library.Nu <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library.nu>.
In the past few months, for example, such a publishers' consortium has
succeeded in shutting down many of the mirrors of Libgen (like
https://b-ok.cc/). But it's whack-a-mole. What publishers are not
responding to is the need for a new model of digital book distribution,
analogous to streamed music. We should be able to pay about $10 per month
and read whatever we want. Amazon is the one large company I know that has
tried this, with its Kindle Unlimited
<https://www.amazon.ca/kindle-dbs/hz/subscribe/ku?ref_=nav_em__k_ku_0_2_4_8>
program. That way, everyone gets paid, and everyone can read without fear
of prosecution.
Where does that leave us? Downloading books from Libgen is almost always a
serious breach of copyright (so always use an anonymizing VPN!). On the
other hand, it is often irresistibly convenient. And for readers without
access to a well-funded library system, it can be the *only* way to read a
book. If you want to check a single page or quotation, it is hard to
justify the purchase of a whole book, especially at academic book prices.
Sometimes, Libgen can allow one to check a reference far more quickly than
by accessing the same book DRM-protected and legally accessible through the
library system. And time matters.
There are so many books on Libgen published by companies like Brill and
Routledge that it's hard to believe they are not quietly aware of it, and
accepting it as an alternative distribution method, although of course they
would officially deny it. So many of the PDFs are clearly publishers'
originals, not scans, suggesting at the very least that there is
uncontrolled leakage of content directly from the publishers.
We live in interesting times. Libgen is more than merely "shadowy." To
download from Libgen is in most cases a crime against copyright law (has
the author been dead for more than 60 years). Just as it used to be with
Napster and early Spotify. At the same time, the obscene profits of giant
publishing corporations like Pearson, Bertelsmann, Elsevier and Springer
and Scholastic, coupled with their unwillingness to adapt to the world of
digital distribution, make it almost inevitable that Libgen exists.
Downloading from Libgen can be handled in a manner that makes detection
impossible, and in many cases the breach of copyright is so slight, for
example if less than 10% of the book is displayed on the computer screen,
that if it came to court it might be judged "fair use."
Proceed with caution, and hope for better business models from future
publishers.
Best wishes,
Dominik
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Matthew &c.,
It'll be curious to see the effect of the past two or three years
on prices. (The cost of paper has certainly increased.) Some
sort of comparison should be possible once figures find their
way through to the ALA:
Prices of U.S. and Foreign Published Materials
https://www.ala.org/alcts/resources/collect/serials/spi
Best, Richard
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Thanks, Jay,
I have the good fortune to use a library that has e-access and I can
vouch for the considerable interest of the volume. For readers who may
not have such connections, however, it is unfortunate that it is
prohibitively expensive. May we hope to see a ?cheap? edition some
day?
best regards,
Matthew Kapstein?
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Subject: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India?
Dear Colleagues,
On behalf of the editors Sarukkai and Chakraborty, it is my pleasure
to bring to your kind attention this new Springer reference work
publication:
Handbook of Logical Thought in India
Please find all the publication details here:
https://link.springer.com/referencework/10.1007/978-81-322-2577-5
With thanks and best wishes,
Jay
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From: Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>
To: Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica
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Dear Richard,
The book we?ve been discussing is over 450 euros. I don?t believe that Springer?s extravagant pricing is a function of rising costs of paper.
best,
Matthew
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Matthew &c.,
It'll be curious to see the effect of the past two or three years
on prices. (The cost of paper has certainly increased.) Some
sort of comparison should be possible once figures find their
way through to the ALA:
Prices of U.S. and Foreign Published Materials
https://www.ala.org/alcts/resources/collect/serials/spi
Best, Richard
--
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https://indica-et-buddhica.com/
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Thanks, Jay,
I have the good fortune to use a library that has e-access and I can vouch for the considerable interest of the volume. For readers who may not have such connections, however, it is unfortunate that it is prohibitively expensive. May we hope to see a ?cheap? edition some day?
best regards,
Matthew Kapstein
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Subject: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
Dear Colleagues,
On behalf of the editors Sarukkai and Chakraborty, it is my pleasure to bring to your kind attention this new Springer reference work publication:
Handbook of Logical Thought in India
Please find all the publication details here:
https://link.springer.com/referencework/10.1007/978-81-322-2577-5
With thanks and best wishes,
Jay
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From: Jonathan Silk <kauzeya@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>
Cc: "Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica"
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main non, mes amis:
eBook ?459.03
Hardcover book ?599.49
So there is no paper involved for ?460, and heaven forbid if you want it in
paper.
By the way, the extremely odd pricing suggests either that this is
converted from another currency or that the pricing is calculated by some
machine with zero human input; a price with 3 cents is not proposed by a
human.
Jonathan
On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 9:55 AM Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY <
indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
> Dear Richard,
>
> The book we?ve been discussing is over 450 euros. I don?t believe that
> Springer?s extravagant pricing is a function of rising costs of paper.
>
> best,
> Matthew
>
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> Matthew &c.,
>
> It'll be curious to see the effect of the past two or three years
> on prices. (The cost of paper has certainly increased.) Some
> sort of comparison should be possible once figures find their
> way through to the ALA:
>
> *Prices of U.S. and Foreign Published Materials*
> https://www.ala.org/alcts/resources/collect/serials/spi
>
>
> Best, Richard
>
>
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> *From*: Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info
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> *To*: Jay Soni <jaysoni05@gmail.com
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> Thanks, Jay,
>
> I have the good fortune to use a library that has e-access and I can vouch
> for the considerable interest of the volume. For readers who may not have
> such connections, however, it is unfortunate that it is prohibitively
> expensive. May we hope to see a ?cheap? edition some day?
>
> best regards,
> Matthew Kapstein
>
> Sent from Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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> *From:* INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of Jay
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> *Subject:* [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
>
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> On behalf of the editors Sarukkai and Chakraborty, it is my pleasure to
> bring to your kind attention this new Springer reference work publication:
>
> Handbook of Logical Thought in India
>
> Please find all the publication details here:
>
> https://link.springer.com/referencework/10.1007/978-81-322-2577-5
>
> With thanks and best wishes,
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> Jay
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From: Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>
To: Jonathan Silk <kauzeya@gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica
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Right. Springer?s price gouging is well known to be based on a business model that depends on insanely high prices for institutional subscriptions to scientific journals that are primarily, or in many cases exclusively, distributed electronically. Springer thrives in a post-paper world.
Matthew
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Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 10:00:50 AM
To: Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>
Cc: Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica <rmahoney@indica-et-buddhica.org>; indology@list.indology.info <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
main non, mes amis:
eBook ?459.03
Hardcover book ?599.49
So there is no paper involved for ?460, and heaven forbid if you want it in paper.
By the way, the extremely odd pricing suggests either that this is converted from another currency or that the pricing is calculated by some machine with zero human input; a price with 3 cents is not proposed by a human.
Jonathan
On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 9:55 AM Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote:
Dear Richard,
The book we?ve been discussing is over 450 euros. I don?t believe that Springer?s extravagant pricing is a function of rising costs of paper.
best,
Matthew
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Matthew &c.,
It'll be curious to see the effect of the past two or three years
on prices. (The cost of paper has certainly increased.) Some
sort of comparison should be possible once figures find their
way through to the ALA:
Prices of U.S. and Foreign Published Materials
https://www.ala.org/alcts/resources/collect/serials/spi
Best, Richard
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Thanks, Jay,
I have the good fortune to use a library that has e-access and I can vouch for the considerable interest of the volume. For readers who may not have such connections, however, it is unfortunate that it is prohibitively expensive. May we hope to see a ?cheap? edition some day?
best regards,
Matthew Kapstein
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Subject: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
Dear Colleagues,
On behalf of the editors Sarukkai and Chakraborty, it is my pleasure to bring to your kind attention this new Springer reference work publication:
Handbook of Logical Thought in India
Please find all the publication details here:
https://link.springer.com/referencework/10.1007/978-81-322-2577-5
With thanks and best wishes,
Jay
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2311 BZ Leiden
Mailing address:
Expeditie Postkamer Faculteit der Geesteswetenschappen
Leiden University
c/o Jonathan Silk, LIAS
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From: "alakendu das" <mailmealakendudas@rediffmail.com>
To: "indology" <indology@list.indology.info>
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Reverred Scholars,
Of late,I am going through a book on Vedanta, entitled "Adwaitya Makaranda", written by LakshmiDhar Kavi.I learnt ,he was related to Vidyaranya, the author of "Panchadashi".Can anyone enlighten me,a bit more, on background and philosophy of the author LakshmiDhar Kavi.? RegardsAlakendu Das
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From: Shubha Pathak <pathak@american.edu>
To: "indology@list.indology.info" <indology@list.indology.info>, Harry
Spier <vasishtha.spier@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Articles on the development of the idea of
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Dear Harry,
The Online First version of my article "Shifting ??stric ?iva: Co-operating Epic Mythology and Philosophy in India?s Classical Period" is available (without page numbers and with a subscription) at the International Journal of Hindu Studies site (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11407-022-09337-8).
Sincerely,
Shubha
???
Shubha Pathak, PhD, PhD
Associate Professor
Department of Philosophy and Religion
American University
Battelle-Tompkins 113
4400 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20016-8056
Phone: 202-885-2957<tel:202-885-2957>
Fax: 202-885-1094<tel:202-885-1094>
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Web pages: http://www.american.edu/cas/faculty/pathak.cfm
https://orcid.org/0000-0003-4087-0601
________________________________
From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of Harry Spier via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2023 8:41 AM
To: indology@list.indology.info <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Articles on the development of the idea of Shiva
External Email: Use caution with links and attachments.
Thank you to Michael Witzel who pointed me to his edition and translation of The Katha Aranyaka 2.100 and was kind enough to translate the passage into english.
And thank you to Corinna Wessels-Mevissen who pointed me to Stella Kramrisch's The Presence of Shiva. I was pleasantly surprised to see most (all?) of Stella Kramrisch's books available for e-loan on archive.org<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://archive.org__;!!IaT_gp1N!12MXULAi3AyhwqeZ0pWmakqvOgoXfI3QdqOmRzCLriz6EwNtYiP-GnM8v5unbvsjMyefFSXNEmLMCKQwUgtuPsYy1Fy9$>.
Harry Spier
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 9:27 AM Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier@gmail.com<mailto:vasishtha.spier@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear list members,
If anyone has any articles on the development of the idea of Shiva. Particularly how vedic Rudra became Shiva. Could you forward them to me, or point out if there is anything on archive.org<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://archive.org__;!!IaT_gp1N!12MXULAi3AyhwqeZ0pWmakqvOgoXfI3QdqOmRzCLriz6EwNtYiP-GnM8v5unbvsjMyefFSXNEmLMCKQwUgtuPsYy1Fy9$> etc.
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2023 19:39:36 -0500
From: Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier@gmail.com>
To: Shubha Pathak <pathak@american.edu>
Cc: "indology@list.indology.info" <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Articles on the development of the idea of
Shiva
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Thank you to Shubha Pathak for her article and thank you to Peter Bisschop
for forwarding his article in Brill's Encyclopedia of Hinduism.
Harry Spier
On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 7:11 PM Shubha Pathak <pathak@american.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Harry,
>
> The Online First version of my article "Shifting ??stric ?iva:
> Co-operating Epic Mythology and Philosophy in India?s Classical Period" is
> available (without page numbers and with a subscription) at the *International
> Journal of Hindu Studies *site (
> https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11407-022-09337-8).
>
> Sincerely,
> Shubha
>
>
>
> ???
> Shubha Pathak, PhD, PhD
> Associate Professor
> Department of Philosophy and Religion
> American University
> Battelle-Tompkins 113
> 4400 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
> Washington, DC 20016-8056
>
> Phone: 202-885-2957
> Fax: 202-885-1094
> E-mail: pathak@american.edu
> Web pages: http://www.american.edu/cas/faculty/pathak.cfm
>
> https://orcid.org/0000-0003-4087-0601
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of Harry
> Spier via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 11, 2023 8:41 AM
> *To:* indology@list.indology.info <indology@list.indology.info>
> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Articles on the development of the idea of Shiva
>
>
> *External Email:* Use caution with links and attachments.
> Thank you to Michael Witzel who pointed me to his edition and translation
> of The Katha Aranyaka 2.100 and was kind enough to translate the passage
> into english.
>
> And thank you to Corinna Wessels-Mevissen who pointed me to Stella
> Kramrisch's The Presence of Shiva. I was pleasantly surprised to see most
> (all?) of Stella Kramrisch's books available for e-loan on archive.org
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://archive.org__;!!IaT_gp1N!12MXULAi3AyhwqeZ0pWmakqvOgoXfI3QdqOmRzCLriz6EwNtYiP-GnM8v5unbvsjMyefFSXNEmLMCKQwUgtuPsYy1Fy9$>
> .
>
> Harry Spier
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 9:27 AM Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear list members,
> If anyone has any articles on the development of the idea of Shiva.
> Particularly how vedic Rudra became Shiva. Could you forward them to me, or
> point out if there is anything on archive.org
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://archive.org__;!!IaT_gp1N!12MXULAi3AyhwqeZ0pWmakqvOgoXfI3QdqOmRzCLriz6EwNtYiP-GnM8v5unbvsjMyefFSXNEmLMCKQwUgtuPsYy1Fy9$>
> etc.
> Thanks
> Harry Spier
>
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 04:26:18 +0000
From: McComas Taylor <McComas.Taylor@anu.edu.au>
To: bvparishat <bvparishat@googlegroups.com>, Indology
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Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Proceedings of WSC: Digital Humanities and
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Congratulations Amba and Oliver!
McComas
[cid:befa3b8e-889d-4b79-baac-20e161185b40]
McComas Taylor, Associate Professor, Reader in Sanskrit
College of Asia and Pacific, Australian National University
Secretary-General, International Assoc. of Sanskrit Studies
cC
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Subject: [INDOLOGY] Proceedings of WSC: Digital Humanities and Computational Sanskrit
Dear members,
We are glad to inform you that now the proceedings of the 18th WSC session on "Digital Humanities and Computational Sanskrit" are published online and are available at
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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 15:15:31 +0300
From: Evgeniya Desnitskaya <khecari@yandex.ru>
To: Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>, indology
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From: Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>
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>From the Wikipedia article on shadow libraries:
Content hosted by some shadow libraries may be hosted without the consent of the original owners of the material. This may make some shadow libraries illegal<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime>
MK
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From: Evgeniya Desnitskaya <khecari@yandex.ru>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2023 1:15:31 PM
To: Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>; indology <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
- bvparishat@, jaysoni05@, listserv@, ssarukkai@
Wikipedia describes it as a 'shadow library'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_Genesis
In fact, it is a place where you can get a major part of contemporary indological books.
--
Evgeniya Desnitskaya
Institute of Oriental Manuscripts
Russian Academy of Sciences
11.02.2023, 14:58, "Matthew Kapstein" <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>:
Thank you, Evgeniya,
I do not know this site or whether it adheres to appropriate legal conventions.
with regards,
Matthew
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Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
Dear Matthew,
This book is available at Libgen site.
Though, I'm not sure if it is appropriate to add a link on this resour?e.
Best,
Evgeniya
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11.02.2023, 13:23, "Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY" <indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>>:
Thanks, Jay,
I have the good fortune to use a library that has e-access and I can vouch for the considerable interest of the volume. For readers who may not have such connections, however, it is unfortunate that it is prohibitively expensive. May we hope to see a ?cheap? edition some day?
best regards,
Matthew Kapstein
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Subject: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
Dear Colleagues,
On behalf of the editors Sarukkai and Chakraborty, it is my pleasure to bring to your kind attention this new Springer reference work publication:
Handbook of Logical Thought in India
Please find all the publication details here:
https://link.springer.com/referencework/10.1007/978-81-322-2577-5
With thanks and best wishes,
Jay
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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 08:41:43 -0500
From: Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier@gmail.com>
To: indology@list.indology.info
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Articles on the development of the idea of
Shiva
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Thank you to Michael Witzel who pointed me to his edition and translation
of The Katha Aranyaka 2.100 and was kind enough to translate the passage
into english.
And thank you to Corinna Wessels-Mevissen who pointed me to Stella
Kramrisch's The Presence of Shiva. I was pleasantly surprised to see most
(all?) of Stella Kramrisch's books available for e-loan on archive.org.
Harry Spier
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 9:27 AM Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear list members,
> If anyone has any articles on the development of the idea of Shiva.
> Particularly how vedic Rudra became Shiva. Could you forward them to me, or
> point out if there is anything on archive.org etc.
> Thanks
> Harry Spier
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From: Michael Gollner <m.a.gollner@gmail.com>
To: indology@list.indology.info
Subject: [INDOLOGY] Article request
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Dear list members,
I am looking for an electronic copy of the following article:
B. G. L. Swamy. 1975. ?The Golaki School of Saivism in the Tamil Country.? Journal of Indian History 53: 167-209.
If someone has a copy that they could send me, I would be most grateful.
Many thanks,
Michael
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School of Religious Studies
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Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 17:31:17 -0700
From: Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>
Cc: Evgeniya Desnitskaya <khecari@yandex.ru>, Jay Soni
<jaysoni05@gmail.com>, indology <indology@list.indology.info>,
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The publishing industry today is where the music industry was about two or
three decades ago. Libgen is rather like the original Napster
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napster>. Libgen makes many books
downloadable without any regard for copyright rights or the law generally.
Publishing companies from time to time try to shut down Libgen and its
predecessors like Library.Nu <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library.nu>.
In the past few months, for example, such a publishers' consortium has
succeeded in shutting down many of the mirrors of Libgen (like
https://b-ok.cc/). But it's whack-a-mole. What publishers are not
responding to is the need for a new model of digital book distribution,
analogous to streamed music. We should be able to pay about $10 per month
and read whatever we want. Amazon is the one large company I know that has
tried this, with its Kindle Unlimited
<https://www.amazon.ca/kindle-dbs/hz/subscribe/ku?ref_=nav_em__k_ku_0_2_4_8>
program. That way, everyone gets paid, and everyone can read without fear
of prosecution.
Where does that leave us? Downloading books from Libgen is almost always a
serious breach of copyright (so always use an anonymizing VPN!). On the
other hand, it is often irresistibly convenient. And for readers without
access to a well-funded library system, it can be the *only* way to read a
book. If you want to check a single page or quotation, it is hard to
justify the purchase of a whole book, especially at academic book prices.
Sometimes, Libgen can allow one to check a reference far more quickly than
by accessing the same book DRM-protected and legally accessible through the
library system. And time matters.
There are so many books on Libgen published by companies like Brill and
Routledge that it's hard to believe they are not quietly aware of it, and
accepting it as an alternative distribution method, although of course they
would officially deny it. So many of the PDFs are clearly publishers'
originals, not scans, suggesting at the very least that there is
uncontrolled leakage of content directly from the publishers.
We live in interesting times. Libgen is more than merely "shadowy." To
download from Libgen is in most cases a crime against copyright law (has
the author been dead for more than 60 years). Just as it used to be with
Napster and early Spotify. At the same time, the obscene profits of giant
publishing corporations like Pearson, Bertelsmann, Elsevier and Springer
and Scholastic, coupled with their unwillingness to adapt to the world of
digital distribution, make it almost inevitable that Libgen exists.
Downloading from Libgen can be handled in a manner that makes detection
impossible, and in many cases the breach of copyright is so slight, for
example if less than 10% of the book is displayed on the computer screen,
that if it came to court it might be judged "fair use."
Proceed with caution, and hope for better business models from future
publishers.
Best wishes,
Dominik
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From: Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica
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To: indology@list.indology.info
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
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Matthew &c.,
It'll be curious to see the effect of the past two or three years
on prices. (The cost of paper has certainly increased.) Some
sort of comparison should be possible once figures find their
way through to the ALA:
Prices of U.S. and Foreign Published Materials
https://www.ala.org/alcts/resources/collect/serials/spi
Best, Richard
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Date: 2023.02.11 23:22:59
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Thanks, Jay,
I have the good fortune to use a library that has e-access and I can
vouch for the considerable interest of the volume. For readers who may
not have such connections, however, it is unfortunate that it is
prohibitively expensive. May we hope to see a ?cheap? edition some
day?
best regards,
Matthew Kapstein?
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Soni via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>
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Subject: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India?
Dear Colleagues,
On behalf of the editors Sarukkai and Chakraborty, it is my pleasure
to bring to your kind attention this new Springer reference work
publication:
Handbook of Logical Thought in India
Please find all the publication details here:
https://link.springer.com/referencework/10.1007/978-81-322-2577-5
With thanks and best wishes,
Jay
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2023 08:50:57 +0000
From: Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>
To: Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica
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Dear Richard,
The book we?ve been discussing is over 450 euros. I don?t believe that Springer?s extravagant pricing is a function of rising costs of paper.
best,
Matthew
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Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
Matthew &c.,
It'll be curious to see the effect of the past two or three years
on prices. (The cost of paper has certainly increased.) Some
sort of comparison should be possible once figures find their
way through to the ALA:
Prices of U.S. and Foreign Published Materials
https://www.ala.org/alcts/resources/collect/serials/spi
Best, Richard
--
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https://indica-et-buddhica.com/
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Thanks, Jay,
I have the good fortune to use a library that has e-access and I can vouch for the considerable interest of the volume. For readers who may not have such connections, however, it is unfortunate that it is prohibitively expensive. May we hope to see a ?cheap? edition some day?
best regards,
Matthew Kapstein
Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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Cc: ssarukkai@gmail.com <ssarukkai@gmail.com>
Subject: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
Dear Colleagues,
On behalf of the editors Sarukkai and Chakraborty, it is my pleasure to bring to your kind attention this new Springer reference work publication:
Handbook of Logical Thought in India
Please find all the publication details here:
https://link.springer.com/referencework/10.1007/978-81-322-2577-5
With thanks and best wishes,
Jay
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2023 10:00:50 +0100
From: Jonathan Silk <kauzeya@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>
Cc: "Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica"
<rmahoney@indica-et-buddhica.org>, "indology@list.indology.info"
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main non, mes amis:
eBook ?459.03
Hardcover book ?599.49
So there is no paper involved for ?460, and heaven forbid if you want it in
paper.
By the way, the extremely odd pricing suggests either that this is
converted from another currency or that the pricing is calculated by some
machine with zero human input; a price with 3 cents is not proposed by a
human.
Jonathan
On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 9:55 AM Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY <
indology@list.indology.info> wrote:
> Dear Richard,
>
> The book we?ve been discussing is over 450 euros. I don?t believe that
> Springer?s extravagant pricing is a function of rising costs of paper.
>
> best,
> Matthew
>
> Sent from Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of
> Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica via INDOLOGY <
> indology@list.indology.info>
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:33:16 AM
> *To:* indology@list.indology.info <indology@list.indology.info>
> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
>
> Matthew &c.,
>
> It'll be curious to see the effect of the past two or three years
> on prices. (The cost of paper has certainly increased.) Some
> sort of comparison should be possible once figures find their
> way through to the ALA:
>
> *Prices of U.S. and Foreign Published Materials*
> https://www.ala.org/alcts/resources/collect/serials/spi
>
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> Thanks, Jay,
>
> I have the good fortune to use a library that has e-access and I can vouch
> for the considerable interest of the volume. For readers who may not have
> such connections, however, it is unfortunate that it is prohibitively
> expensive. May we hope to see a ?cheap? edition some day?
>
> best regards,
> Matthew Kapstein
>
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> *Subject:* [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
>
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> On behalf of the editors Sarukkai and Chakraborty, it is my pleasure to
> bring to your kind attention this new Springer reference work publication:
>
> Handbook of Logical Thought in India
>
> Please find all the publication details here:
>
> https://link.springer.com/referencework/10.1007/978-81-322-2577-5
>
> With thanks and best wishes,
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From: Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>
To: Jonathan Silk <kauzeya@gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica
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Right. Springer?s price gouging is well known to be based on a business model that depends on insanely high prices for institutional subscriptions to scientific journals that are primarily, or in many cases exclusively, distributed electronically. Springer thrives in a post-paper world.
Matthew
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Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 10:00:50 AM
To: Matthew Kapstein <mkapstei@uchicago.edu>
Cc: Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica <rmahoney@indica-et-buddhica.org>; indology@list.indology.info <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
main non, mes amis:
eBook ?459.03
Hardcover book ?599.49
So there is no paper involved for ?460, and heaven forbid if you want it in paper.
By the way, the extremely odd pricing suggests either that this is converted from another currency or that the pricing is calculated by some machine with zero human input; a price with 3 cents is not proposed by a human.
Jonathan
On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 9:55 AM Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote:
Dear Richard,
The book we?ve been discussing is over 450 euros. I don?t believe that Springer?s extravagant pricing is a function of rising costs of paper.
best,
Matthew
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Matthew &c.,
It'll be curious to see the effect of the past two or three years
on prices. (The cost of paper has certainly increased.) Some
sort of comparison should be possible once figures find their
way through to the ALA:
Prices of U.S. and Foreign Published Materials
https://www.ala.org/alcts/resources/collect/serials/spi
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Thanks, Jay,
I have the good fortune to use a library that has e-access and I can vouch for the considerable interest of the volume. For readers who may not have such connections, however, it is unfortunate that it is prohibitively expensive. May we hope to see a ?cheap? edition some day?
best regards,
Matthew Kapstein
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Subject: [INDOLOGY] New Publication on Logical Thought in India
Dear Colleagues,
On behalf of the editors Sarukkai and Chakraborty, it is my pleasure to bring to your kind attention this new Springer reference work publication:
Handbook of Logical Thought in India
Please find all the publication details here:
https://link.springer.com/referencework/10.1007/978-81-322-2577-5
With thanks and best wishes,
Jay
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2311 BZ Leiden
Mailing address:
Expeditie Postkamer Faculteit der Geesteswetenschappen
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To: "indology" <indology@list.indology.info>
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Reverred Scholars,
Of late,I am going through a book on Vedanta, entitled "Adwaitya Makaranda", written by LakshmiDhar Kavi.I learnt ,he was related to Vidyaranya, the author of "Panchadashi".Can anyone enlighten me,a bit more, on background and philosophy of the author LakshmiDhar Kavi.? RegardsAlakendu Das
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From: Shubha Pathak <pathak@american.edu>
To: "indology@list.indology.info" <indology@list.indology.info>, Harry
Spier <vasishtha.spier@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Articles on the development of the idea of
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Dear Harry,
The Online First version of my article "Shifting ??stric ?iva: Co-operating Epic Mythology and Philosophy in India?s Classical Period" is available (without page numbers and with a subscription) at the International Journal of Hindu Studies site (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11407-022-09337-8).
Sincerely,
Shubha
???
Shubha Pathak, PhD, PhD
Associate Professor
Department of Philosophy and Religion
American University
Battelle-Tompkins 113
4400 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20016-8056
Phone: 202-885-2957<tel:202-885-2957>
Fax: 202-885-1094<tel:202-885-1094>
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Web pages: http://www.american.edu/cas/faculty/pathak.cfm
https://orcid.org/0000-0003-4087-0601
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From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of Harry Spier via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2023 8:41 AM
To: indology@list.indology.info <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Articles on the development of the idea of Shiva
External Email: Use caution with links and attachments.
Thank you to Michael Witzel who pointed me to his edition and translation of The Katha Aranyaka 2.100 and was kind enough to translate the passage into english.
And thank you to Corinna Wessels-Mevissen who pointed me to Stella Kramrisch's The Presence of Shiva. I was pleasantly surprised to see most (all?) of Stella Kramrisch's books available for e-loan on archive.org<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://archive.org__;!!IaT_gp1N!12MXULAi3AyhwqeZ0pWmakqvOgoXfI3QdqOmRzCLriz6EwNtYiP-GnM8v5unbvsjMyefFSXNEmLMCKQwUgtuPsYy1Fy9$>.
Harry Spier
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 9:27 AM Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier@gmail.com<mailto:vasishtha.spier@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear list members,
If anyone has any articles on the development of the idea of Shiva. Particularly how vedic Rudra became Shiva. Could you forward them to me, or point out if there is anything on archive.org<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://archive.org__;!!IaT_gp1N!12MXULAi3AyhwqeZ0pWmakqvOgoXfI3QdqOmRzCLriz6EwNtYiP-GnM8v5unbvsjMyefFSXNEmLMCKQwUgtuPsYy1Fy9$> etc.
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2023 19:39:36 -0500
From: Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier@gmail.com>
To: Shubha Pathak <pathak@american.edu>
Cc: "indology@list.indology.info" <indology@list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Articles on the development of the idea of
Shiva
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Thank you to Shubha Pathak for her article and thank you to Peter Bisschop
for forwarding his article in Brill's Encyclopedia of Hinduism.
Harry Spier
On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 7:11 PM Shubha Pathak <pathak@american.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Harry,
>
> The Online First version of my article "Shifting ??stric ?iva:
> Co-operating Epic Mythology and Philosophy in India?s Classical Period" is
> available (without page numbers and with a subscription) at the *International
> Journal of Hindu Studies *site (
> https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11407-022-09337-8).
>
> Sincerely,
> Shubha
>
>
>
> ???
> Shubha Pathak, PhD, PhD
> Associate Professor
> Department of Philosophy and Religion
> American University
> Battelle-Tompkins 113
> 4400 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
> Washington, DC 20016-8056
>
> Phone: 202-885-2957
> Fax: 202-885-1094
> E-mail: pathak@american.edu
> Web pages: http://www.american.edu/cas/faculty/pathak.cfm
>
> https://orcid.org/0000-0003-4087-0601
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* INDOLOGY <indology-bounces@list.indology.info> on behalf of Harry
> Spier via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 11, 2023 8:41 AM
> *To:* indology@list.indology.info <indology@list.indology.info>
> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] Articles on the development of the idea of Shiva
>
>
> *External Email:* Use caution with links and attachments.
> Thank you to Michael Witzel who pointed me to his edition and translation
> of The Katha Aranyaka 2.100 and was kind enough to translate the passage
> into english.
>
> And thank you to Corinna Wessels-Mevissen who pointed me to Stella
> Kramrisch's The Presence of Shiva. I was pleasantly surprised to see most
> (all?) of Stella Kramrisch's books available for e-loan on archive.org
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://archive.org__;!!IaT_gp1N!12MXULAi3AyhwqeZ0pWmakqvOgoXfI3QdqOmRzCLriz6EwNtYiP-GnM8v5unbvsjMyefFSXNEmLMCKQwUgtuPsYy1Fy9$>
> .
>
> Harry Spier
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 9:27 AM Harry Spier <vasishtha.spier@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear list members,
> If anyone has any articles on the development of the idea of Shiva.
> Particularly how vedic Rudra became Shiva. Could you forward them to me, or
> point out if there is anything on archive.org
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://archive.org__;!!IaT_gp1N!12MXULAi3AyhwqeZ0pWmakqvOgoXfI3QdqOmRzCLriz6EwNtYiP-GnM8v5unbvsjMyefFSXNEmLMCKQwUgtuPsYy1Fy9$>
> etc.
> Thanks
> Harry Spier
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 04:26:18 +0000
From: McComas Taylor <McComas.Taylor@anu.edu.au>
To: bvparishat <bvparishat@googlegroups.com>, Indology
<indology@list.indology.info>, Amba Kulkarni <ambapradeep@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Proceedings of WSC: Digital Humanities and
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Congratulations Amba and Oliver!
McComas
[cid:befa3b8e-889d-4b79-baac-20e161185b40]
McComas Taylor, Associate Professor, Reader in Sanskrit
College of Asia and Pacific, Australian National University
Secretary-General, International Assoc. of Sanskrit Studies
cC
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Subject: [INDOLOGY] Proceedings of WSC: Digital Humanities and Computational Sanskrit
Dear members,
We are glad to inform you that now the proceedings of the 18th WSC session on "Digital Humanities and Computational Sanskrit" are published online and are available at
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