[INDOLOGY] asti as copula

[Eli Franco]

 From a different perspective, the Vaiśeṣikas distinguish astitva and  
sattā; the former is present in all existing things, the latter only  
in substance, quality and action (dravya, guṇa, karma).




Zitat von Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>:

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> A Vedic Concordance
>
> by Maurice Bloomfield
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> https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.15782
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> https://archive.org/download/in.ernet.dli.2015.15782/2015.15782.A-Vedic-Concordance-1906.pdf
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> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 1:50 PM Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Substitution of asti in a 'verbless' (equational , NP NP sentence) is
>> based on the theoretical position that a sentence without a verb is not
>> possible.
>>
>> astitvenānuṣakto vā nivṛttyātmani vā sthitaḥ /
>> artho 'bhidhīyate yasmād ato vākyaṃ prayujyate // BVaky_2.427 //
>>
>> *kriyānuṣaṅgeṇa vinā na padārthaḥ pratīyate /**satyo vā viparīto vā
>> vyavahāre na so 'sty ataḥ* // BVaky_2.428 //
>> sad ity etat tu yad vākyaṃ tad abhūd asti neti vā /
>> kriyābhidhānasaṃbandham antareṇa na gamyate // BVaky_2.429 //
>>
>> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 1:30 PM Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> asti in theory is discussed in the shaastra texts of Vyaakarana Nyaaya
>>> and Meemaamsaa for different purposes.
>>>
>>> In Vyakarana , Vakyapadiyam discusses asti as 'implied' (or present in
>>> the 'deep structure' ) at several different occasions.
>>>
>>> For example, it mentions it as implied when a single word works as a
>>> sentence.
>>>
>>> yac cāpy ekaṃ padaṃ dṛṣṭaṃ caritāstikriyaṃ kva cit /
>>> tad vākyāntaram evāhur na tad anyena yujyate // BVaky_2.270 //
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 11:17 PM jason.cannon-silber--- via INDOLOGY <
>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear members of the Indology listserv,
>>>>
>>>> I have recently been wondering about the nature of the copula in
>>>> Sanskrit grammar (both in theory and in practice), and  
>>>> specifically whether
>>>> and how often the form *asti* is used as a copula in Classical
>>>> Sanskrit. I am sorry if this subject has been raised before on this list,
>>>> but from my search of the archives it seems it has not been addressed
>>>> directly.
>>>>
>>>> Any user of Sanskrit will know that there need be no word meaning "to
>>>> be" (i.e., no copula) in a sentence expressing that "X is Y" (i.e., a
>>>> nominal sentence). But from the exchange between Profs. Deshpande and
>>>> Bronkhorst in the pages of *Annals BORI*, I gather that at least some
>>>> *vaiyākaraṇa*s understood there to be a "silent," copulative *asti* in
>>>> such nominal sentences as *Devadattaḥ pācaka odanasya* or even *Rāmo
>>>> gataḥ*. (Whether Pāṇini himself was likely to have had such an
>>>> understanding was there the *vivādāspada*.)
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, I have been told by someone whose knowledge of
>>>> Sanskrit usage I hold in high esteem that authors of classical Sanskrit
>>>> almost never use *asti* in this way, and that such usage might even be
>>>> considered wrong. This same person has suggested to me that (part of) the
>>>> reason for this may lie in the fact that technical terms derived from the
>>>> form *asti* (please bear in mind that I am speaking here only of the
>>>> form *asti*, not of forms of the root *as-* in other tenses, persons,
>>>> or numbers), such as *āstika* or *astitva*, are invariably connected
>>>> with *asti*'s existential (or perhaps "adessive") meaning. I have noted
>>>> that Speijer seems aware of no such avoidance, and gives a couple examples
>>>> of what he understands to be copulative *asti* from the story
>>>> literature (*Sanskrit Syntax* §§2-3).
>>>>
>>>> I would therefore like to know if there is any literature discussing
>>>> this avoidance (or perhaps even proscription) of using *asti* as
>>>> copula. A pre-modern discussion would be especially interesting, but I
>>>> would also appreciate further secondary resources, or even your own
>>>> thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> With best wishes,
>>>> Jason Cannon-Silber
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nagaraj Paturi
>>>
>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>>> Dean, IndicA
>>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
>>> BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra
>>> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru.
>>> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru
>>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,
>>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Nagaraj Paturi
>>
>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>> Dean, IndicA
>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
>> BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra
>> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru.
>> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru
>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,
>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Nagaraj Paturi
>
> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.
> Dean, IndicA
> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra
> BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra
> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru.
> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru
> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies,
> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,
> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.


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