[INDOLOGY] iti in Sanskrit

Sun Nov 13 19:04:22 UTC 2022

Thanks, Hans, for sharing these two papers and more food for thought. Best,

Madhav

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]

On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 10:49 AM Hock, Hans Henrich <hhhock at illinois.edu>
wrote:

> Thanks, Madhav.
>
> I have indeed dealt with the use of *iti* in Sanskrit on several
> occasions. The best (but still incomplete) account is in the attached paper
> (two copies, one a scan of the original publication, the other with neater
> formatting). (Note especially the structures in examples (62) and (73), to
> which post-Vedic examples with *yad … iti* could be added. These
> structures (and similar ones in Modern Indo-Aryan, e.g. varieties of
> Marathi) constitute interesting challenges to formal approaches to syntax.)
>
> What is not discussed in that paper is the convention of the Epics not to
> use *iti* at the end of a poetic line, except when the passage is a quote
> within a quote. More work is needed for post-Classical Sanskrit, especially
> as regards genre differences. It seems to me that *iti *is used much more
> strictly in technical literature (such as the Mahābhāṣya) and less strictly
> in narrative literature (but even in this genre, we may need to distinguish
> between Epic and Fable genres, and possibly others). It would also be
> interesting to determine when and where *itīti* first occurs (marking a
> cited form within a quote).
>
> In addition there is the modern use of *itika-* used frequently to
> incorporate a foreign noun into Sanskrit discourse, by making the word
> inflectable according to Sanskrit grammar. Monier-Williams does not list
> this usage. Is there any evidence for it before the modern period?
>
> So, a fair number of questions remain, and there is room for a lot of
> additional work.
>
> All the best,
>
> Hans Henrich
>
>
>
> On 12 Nov2022, at 10:34, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
> If I remember correctly, the possibility of the "iti" constructions being
> an areal phenomena have been discussed  for many decades. The best person
> to provide information regarding this topic may be Hans Hock. I will see if
> I can locate any of these older publications.
>
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
> Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India
>
> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 6:28 AM Olivelle, Joseph P via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
> See the many explanations of ‘iti’ in Gary Tubb and Emery Boose’s book
> “Scholastic Sanskrit”.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:10 AM, Brendan S. Gillon, Prof. via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
> >
> > Dear colleagues,
> >
> > I am wondering if any of you know of articles on the use of `iti' in
> > Sanskrit.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Brendan
> >
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