[INDOLOGY] seeking Vaṃśabrāhmaṇa, Burnell ed. and DrāhyāyanaŚS, Reuters ed.

Jean-Luc Chevillard jean-luc.chevillard at univ-paris-diderot.fr
Sun Jul 3 12:08:30 UTC 2022


Dear Tim,
Dear Arlo,

I have seen cases where a book is freely accessible on Archive.org,
but only accessible in "snippett view" in Google books.

My impression is that Google is more of a commercial venture than 
archive.org

Best wishes

-- Jean-Luc

https://htl.cnrs.fr/equipe/jl-chevillard/


On 03/07/2022 13:34, Lubin, Tim wrote:
> There is, presumably, an underlying scan, which Google has arbitrarily 
> chosen not to make available for viewing or download, despite its being 
> old enough to be out of copyright.  I wonder whether the decision hinges 
> on the conditions stipulated by the library that supplied the volume for 
> scanning.  In any case, it seems increasingly common that old books on 
> Google are restricted to showing only a “snippet” or nothing at all.  I 
> did find this Google listing but didn’t bother to mention it because it 
> is perfectly useless.
> 
> Best,
> Tim
> 
> *From: *INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info> on behalf of 
> INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>
> *Reply-To: *Arlo Griffiths <arlogriffiths at hotmail.com>
> *Date: *Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 3:57 AM
> *To: *INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>
> *Subject: *Re: [INDOLOGY] seeking Vaṃśabrāhmaṇa, Burnell ed. and 
> DrāhyāyanaŚS, Reuters ed.
> 
> Thanks Asko.
> 
> Tim was asking partly on my behalf, as I am cleaning up my library and 
> throwing out all xeroxes for books also available online, but wanting to 
> keep for convenient scanning any xeroxes of works not yet available online.
> 
> I find this 
> <https://books.google.fr/books/about/The_Srauta_Sutra_of_Drahyayana_with_the.html?id=iPZ3HAAACAAJ&redir_esc=y 
> <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.fr%2Fbooks%2Fabout%2FThe_Srauta_Sutra_of_Drahyayana_with_the.html%3Fid%3DiPZ3HAAACAAJ%26redir_esc%3Dy&data=05%7C01%7Clubint%40wlu.edu%7Ca0628be9a50f47a8cc4208da5cc99f96%7Cd1a80622a99943e58eb67873905e939e%7C1%7C1%7C637924318287118386%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EAvoYz7ID7iL9VmFONSfe74UNiHYJRa9ikEmEsRasBU%3D&reserved=0>> 
> but I cannot tell whether there actually is no underlying pdf or whether 
> it's just the usual restriction upon access to GoogleBooks from Europe.
> 
> So should I try to scan my xerox and upload a pdf to Archive.org?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Arlo
> 
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> 	
> 
> The Srauta-Sutra of Drahyayana with the Commentary of Dhanvin - J. N. 
> Reuter - Google Books 
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> *From:*INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info> on behalf of Asko 
> Parpola via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 3, 2022 7:18 AM
> *To:* Lubin, Tim <LubinT at wlu.edu>
> *Cc:* INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>
> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] seeking Vaṃśabrāhmaṇa, Burnell ed. and 
> DrāhyāyanaŚS, Reuters ed.
> 
> A good pdf of Burnell’s Vaṃsabrāhmaṇa can be downloaded from
> 
> http://dbooks.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/books/PDFs/590111097.pdf 
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> 
> J. N. Reuter’s The Śrauta-Sūtra of Drāhyāyaṇa with the commentary of 
> Dhanvin, Part I, was supposed to appear as part 25:2 of Acta Societatis 
> Scientiarum Fennicae, but it never did. Because devanagari printing 
> could not be done in Finland, the book was typeset in London, and a very 
> limited number of copies were published by Luzac & Co. in London in 1904.
> 
> Best wishes, Asko
> 
> 
> 
>     On 2. Jul 2022, at 23.23, Lubin, Tim <LubinT at wlu.edu
>     <mailto:LubinT at wlu.edu>> wrote:
> 
>     Thanks, Guy. That is it.  I don’t have access to download from
>     Hathi, but the Hathi page helpfully points to the same volume on
>     Google Books, which I myself had failed to find:
> 
>     https://books.google.com/books?vid=Harvard:32044004802245
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> 
>     One down, one to go.
> 
>     Best,
>     TL
> 
>     *From:*"Guy St. Amant" <gtstamant at gmail.com
>     <mailto:gtstamant at gmail.com>>
>     *Date:*Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 4:13 PM
>     *To:*"Lubin, Tim" <LubinT at wlu.edu <mailto:LubinT at wlu.edu>>
>     *Subject:*Re: [INDOLOGY] seeking Vaṃśabrāhmaṇa, Burnell ed. and
>     DrāhyāyanaŚS, Reuters ed.
> 
>     Dear Professor Lubin,
> 
>     I think thefirst of these
>     <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbabel.hathitrust.org%2Fcgi%2Fpt%3Fid%3Dhvd.32044004802245%26view%3D1up%26seq%3D5%26skin%3D2021&data=05%7C01%7Clubint%40wlu.edu%7Ca0628be9a50f47a8cc4208da5cc99f96%7Cd1a80622a99943e58eb67873905e939e%7C1%7C1%7C637924318287118386%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ABQk16HEYak%2Bnknlw97WGesfdWVxZ7Rt3XdhCmf211g%3D&reserved=0>is
>     available on Hathi trust for download. Is this the right book? I
>     haven't had any luck looking for the second, though.
> 
>     Hope all is well!
> 
>     Guy
> 
>     On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 at 22:55, Lubin, Tim <LubinT at wlu.edu
>     <mailto:LubinT at wlu.edu>> wrote:
> 
>         Colleagues,
> 
>         If any of you have a good PDF of either or both of these two old
>         (out-of-copyright) volumes, which inexplicably are not made
>         available on Google books, and elude me in Archive and in DLI as
>         well, please share, ideally by uploading to Archive:
> 
>         A. C. Burnell,/The Vaṁçabrāhmaṇa/, Mangalore 1873.
> 
>         J. N. Reuters,/The Śrautasūtra of Drāhyāyaṇa with the commentary
>         of Dhanvin/, London 1904.
> 
>         With thanks,
> 
>         Tim
> 
>         Timothy Lubin
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