[INDOLOGY] paratva again

[Madhav Deshpande]

When I used the "https" solution as suggested by Jan, my Mac opened the
website without the malware warning and I can read Swamiji's critique of
Rajpopat. The Gaṇakāṣṭādhyāyī software does not run on a Mac in any case.

Madhav

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]


On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 3:43 AM Jan E.M. Houben via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

> Dear Aleksander,
> In that case I have to retract my recommendation to give the website and
> the software "a try, with all due caution".
> I can only add that my "due caution" consisted in keeping my Norton
> Antivirus alert and active, even when I went against its advice not to
> proceed with this site.
> Best wishes,
> Jan
>
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 at 02:21, Uskokov, Aleksandar <
> aleksandar.uskokov at yale.edu> wrote:
>
>> Dear Jan,
>>
>> The malware issue is real, my computer was infected with a Trojan by
>> installing the Gangakashtadyayi software.
>>
>> I trust it is a very useful program, but not before this issue is
>> resolved.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Aleksandar
>>
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>> *From:* INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info> on behalf of Jan
>> E.M. Houben via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 29, 2022 7:48:44 PM
>> *To:* Robert Zydenbos <zydenbos at lrz.uni-muenchen.de>
>> *Cc:* Indology <indology at list.indology.info>
>> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] paratva again
>>
>> Dear All,
>> Dr Shivamurthy Shivacharaya's reaction and refutation of
>> the unsubstantiated claim that an old puzzle is solved is of special
>> importance because it is backed up by all derivations  (prakriyā) generated
>> by his Ganakashtadhyayi software. The derivation of 'guruṇā' and
>> ‘mantraiḥ’, discussed by Dr Shivamurthy Shivacharya, are not given in the
>> thesis, but at
>> https://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/solving-grammars-greatest-puzzle
>> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cam.ac.uk%2Fstories%2Fsolving-grammars-greatest-puzzle&data=05%7C01%7Caleksandar.uskokov%40yale.edu%7C93a32ae3510a42b1576b08dae9ffa088%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638079581388441448%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=0axjQe%2BbX3wuWWA1TVGMlRJJcLXkM%2BCswEsMzbDC5og%3D&reserved=0>
>> in the style of the In Panini We Trust thesis. Dr Shivamurthy Shivacharya
>> shows how these forms can be conveniently derived and cites the rules
>> involved in their derivation following the traditional trimuni framework.
>> As for the "malware" warning: leaving out the underlying technical
>> aspects, the only problem with this website and the link is that it still
>> has an http:// address, if it is upgraded to an https:// address there
>> would be no problem and no "malware" warning from your Antivirus. Although
>> http:// addresses are indeed vulnerable for hacks etc. they are not
>> necessarily by themselves malware and in this case I think it would not be
>> entirely irresponsible to give it a try, with all due caution, and open the
>> site (and if that goes well, install the Ganakashtadhyayi software).
>> With best regards,
>> Jan Houben
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 at 20:07, Robert Zydenbos <
>> zydenbos at lrz.uni-muenchen.de> wrote:
>>
>> Oh! My sincere apologies for that. (I didn't know about this before –
>> perhaps because I haven't used Windows computers in years.) I will have to
>> report this to the swami.
>>
>> RZ
>>
>>
>> Patrick Olivelle via INDOLOGY wrote on 29.12.22 15:43:
>>
>> When accessing the first link in Robert’s message, I get this warning:
>>
>> Malware Detected!
>> http://math.taralabalu.in/news.php?tp=1901
>> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmath.taralabalu.in%2Fnews.php%3Ftp%3D1901&data=05%7C01%7Caleksandar.uskokov%40yale.edu%7C93a32ae3510a42b1576b08dae9ffa088%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638079581388441448%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=QR6MfncWSu3tXv556LDd1ltaDs%2BfC9XsMXRIn9r%2BPwQ%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>> Based on The University of Texas at Austin access policies, the web site
>> you are attempting to access has been blocked because it has been
>> determined to be a security threat to your computer or the organization's
>> network. This web site has been associated with malware/spyware.
>>
>> If you have questions, please contact the UT Service Desk at +1 (512)
>> 475-9400 or help at its.utexas.edu, or your departmental help desk, and
>> provide the codes shown below.
>>
>> Your IP: 2603:8080:2a00:6b6f:c1c3:2a87:7bff:d6ef
>> URL: http://math.taralabalu.in/news.php?tp=1901
>> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmath.taralabalu.in%2Fnews.php%3Ftp%3D1901&data=05%7C01%7Caleksandar.uskokov%40yale.edu%7C93a32ae3510a42b1576b08dae9ffa088%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638079581388441448%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=QR6MfncWSu3tXv556LDd1ltaDs%2BfC9XsMXRIn9r%2BPwQ%3D&reserved=0>
>> Reason: MALWARE
>> Threat Reason: Researchers or users identified possible threats.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
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> *Jan E.M. Houben*
>
> Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology
>
> *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite*
>
> École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres)
>
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>
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>
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>
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