[INDOLOGY] dhudhurikā/ghughurikā

Madhav Deshpande mmdesh at umich.edu
Mon Aug 23 19:21:53 UTC 2021


One more phonetically close word is घूंघट/घूंगट.

Madhav Deshpande

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 12:14 PM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu> wrote:

> Dear Gaia,
>
> The context now suggests another possibility, namely the Hindi/ word
> Ghaaghara referring to a long skirt. Just a thought.
>
> Madhav Deshpande
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 12:06 PM Gaia Pintucci <gaiapintucci at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Prof. Deshpande, dear All,
>>
>> Thanks for all the replies.
>> The context is the one described in my query about the clothing item
>> called nīvi/nīvī (
>> https://list.indology.info/pipermail/indology/2021-August/055095.html).
>> I am sorry for not clarifying this. I had found the word
>> dhudhurikā/ghughurikā next to the word nīvī in a manuscript from Rajasthan
>> and was wondering what it means (I guess it could be a gloss for nīvī) and
>> in which language.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Gaia Pintucci
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 4:04 PM Madhav Deshpande <mmdesh at umich.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A word in many modern Indian languages that comes phonetically close to
>>> this is Ghungroo, the dancer's bells. I don't know if this will fit the
>>> context of your text.  The other word is Ghāgar referring to a water pot.
>>> Such words could possibly be Sanskritized as ghargharikā. Again the context
>>> may or may not support any of these suggestions.
>>>
>>> Madhav M. Deshpande
>>> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
>>> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
>>> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
>>> Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore,
>>> India
>>>
>>> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 6:50 AM Gaia Pintucci via INDOLOGY <
>>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all the replies both on and off-list.
>>>>
>>>> I am eager to hear any further input you might have on the nature of
>>>> the nīvi/nīvī and related questions, but I would like to briefly zoom
>>>> in on the word dhudhurikā.
>>>>
>>>> Come to think of it, in the manuscript in which I found it, gha and dha
>>>> can't be clearly distinguished. (Actually, from a purely graphic point of
>>>> view they *could*, but the scribe does not seem to use the graphic
>>>> peculiarities of the two *akṣara*s with a purpose.) Therefore the word
>>>> might be either dhudhurikā or ghughurikā.
>>>>
>>>> In this respect, in J.T. Platts' Urdū dictionary I see that the words
>>>> ghagh[a]rā and ghagh[a]rī mean “a petticoat (= ghāghrā); a short
>>>> frock” and that they should be related to the “S[anskrit]
>>>> gharghara+kaḥ and gharghara+ikā” (p. 935 of the 2004 reprint). However,
>>>> the meanings listed by Apte for ghargharaḥ, ghargharā and ghargharikā don't
>>>> have much to do with "petticoat", see
>>>> https://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/AP90Scan/2014/web/webtc/servepdf.php?page=0477-a.
>>>> (I might well be on a spectacularly wrong track.)
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody have any thoughts on dhudhurikā/ghughurikā? Can anybody
>>>> figure out which language it is?
>>>>
>>>> All the very best,
>>>>
>>>> Gaia Pintucci
>>>>
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> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
> Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India
>
> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
>
-- 
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
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