Re: [INDOLOGY] Thieme on Īśopaniṣad

[Madhav Deshpande]

Dear Jeff,

     I have read through Patrick's Introduction to his book, but he does
not specifically discuss the order of Chāndogya and Īśā Upaniṣads that
Thieme discusses in the paragraph I cited.  I would have preliminarily
assumed that as part of the Śukla Yajurveda Saṃhitā, the Īśā Upaniṣad might
be somewhat earlier.  Best,

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]


On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 6:50 PM Jeffery Long <dharmaprof108 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Dear Madhav,
>
> I seem to recall that Patrick Olivelle discusses the relative chronology
> of the principal Upaniṣads in the introduction to his translation of them,
> published by Oxford University Press.
>
> All the best,
> Jeff
>
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> On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:42 PM, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
>      I have been rereading Professor Paul Thieme's article on the
> Īśopaniṣad published in the JAOS.  In one of his discussions, he seems to
> claim that the Chāndogya-Upaniṣad is older than the Īśa.  Here is that
> passage:
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> What is a good modern discussion about the relative chronology of the
> "older" Upaniṣads?  Has anyone discussed Thieme's views?  With best regards,
>
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
>
> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
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