Dear Jeff,

     I have read through Patrick's Introduction to his book, but he does not specifically discuss the order of Chāndogya and Īśā Upaniṣads that Thieme discusses in the paragraph I cited.  I would have preliminarily assumed that as part of the Śukla Yajurveda Saṃhitā, the Īśā Upaniṣad might be somewhat earlier.  Best,

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]


On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 6:50 PM Jeffery Long <dharmaprof108@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Madhav,

I seem to recall that Patrick Olivelle discusses the relative chronology of the principal Upaniṣads in the introduction to his translation of them, published by Oxford University Press.

All the best,
Jeff

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On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:42 PM, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

     I have been rereading Professor Paul Thieme's article on the Īśopaniṣad published in the JAOS.  In one of his discussions, he seems to claim that the Chāndogya-Upaniṣad is older than the Īśa.  Here is that passage:

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What is a good modern discussion about the relative chronology of the "older" Upaniṣads?  Has anyone discussed Thieme's views?  With best regards,

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]
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