Re: [INDOLOGY] Antw: Meaning of वाक

[Jan E.M. Houben]

As far as I know Alfred Ludwig published a translation of the Rgveda into
German plus commentary plus introduction between 1876 and 1883.
If this first complete translation of the Rgveda is now being translated
into English I consider this very good news.
As for RV 1.164.23-24, 12 years ago I concluded my study of these stanzas
as follows:

RV 1.16423-24, two enigmatic statements in the "Riddle Hymn," express two
complementary viewpoints on the relationship between smaller and larger
units of metrical speech employed in ritual chanting. As such, they provide
antecedents for two complementary views which play a major role in
Bhartrhari's Vâkyapadîya, one according to which the units of a lower
organizational level (especially the word and its meaning) are primary, the
other according to which units of a higher organizational level (especially
the sentence and its meaning) are primary.

For those who want to see the full argument I have uploaded the article on
academia.edu:
https://www.academia.edu/39950384/RV_1.164.23-24_and_Bhartrharis_philosophy_of_language
Jan Houben

On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 21:20, Raik Strunz via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

> Dear Veeranarayana Pandurangi,
>
> according to Böhtlingk’s PW *vāká*- refers to ‘Spruch, Recitation,
> Formel im Ritus’ (Apte ‘speech, uttering’), a specific kind of expression
> destined for the ritual context. Alfred Ludwig (forthcoming) translates the
> whole stanza:
>
> “by the *gâyatra*-metre he measures the *arka*,
> by the *arka* the *sâma*, by the *trišṭubh*-metre the *vâka* |
> by the *vâka*, that has two feet, the *vâka* that has four (read:
> *catušpadam*);
> by the mora he measures the seven modes of singing || 24 ||”
>
> Best,
>
> RS
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> >>> Veeranarayana Pandurangi via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>
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> Dear friends,
>  I am baffled by meaning of Vaaka that appears in RV  १,१६४.२४  गायत्रेण
> प्रति मिमीते अर्कमर्केण साम त्रैष्टुभेन *वाकम् ।*
> १,१६४.२४ *वाकेन वाकं* द्विपदा चतुष्पदाक्षरेण मिमते सप्त वाणीः ॥
>
> It is also found in MB
> “*यं वाकेष्वनुवाकेषु* निषत्सूपनिषत्सु च । गृणन्ति सत्यकर्म्माणं सत्यं
> सत्येेेेषु सामनि।
>
> I  request all of you to kindly Enlighten me.
> I have seen S Jamison translation with no use.
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