[INDOLOGY] grammar question

Sun Jul 28 07:20:51 UTC 2019

„Die älteste Weise, die sich durch Beispiele aus der Saṃhitā- und
Brahmaṇa-Prosa belegen läßt, ist die, daß der den Abstand bezeichnende
Einer im Instrumental oder Ablativ vorausgeschickt wird, dann *na *"nicht"
und der Zehner oder Hunderter in dem durch den Satzzusammenhang verlangten
Kasus folgt, z. B. *dvābhyāṃ na śatam *eig. "vermöge der zwei nicht
hundert" d. h. "98". Der Einer hat natürlich das Genus des den gezählten
Begriff bezeichnenden Substantivs. Jedes Wort einer solchen Gruppe behält
vorklassisch den Akzent. [...]

Ablativ in TS. 7, 4, 7, 3 *ekasyai *[Dat. st. Gen.-Abl. fem.] *na pañcāśat
(ratrayaḥ) *"49" und in den Gruppen, die mit *ekān, *Sandhiform von
*ekāt, *altem
[sonst durch *ekasmāt *verdrängtem] Ablativ sg. mask. ntr. von *eka-, *gebildet
sind, z. B. ŚB. 9, 2, 3, 47 *tad ekān na triṃśat *"29". Vereinzelt tritt
dieses *ekāt *auch statt des Femininums ein, wodurch c) vorbereitet wird:
ŚB. 6, 2, 2, 37 *ekān na triṃśat *"29" als Summe zweier mit femininen
Substantiven benannter Posten [...]

Klassisch ist daraus mit Beschränkung auf die Eins und zwar in der Form des
mask.-neutralen Ablativs die kompositionelle Form *ekānna-viṃśati-
(-triṃśat- *usw.) oder *ekādna- *(gemäß I 328 § 276c) mit Betonung der
ersten Silbe erwachsen P. 6, 3, 76. Der akzentuierten Prosa ist diese
Univerbierung noch fremd [...]“,

etc. etc.

*Altindische Grammatik*. Von Jacob Wackernagel.

III. Band: *Nominalflexion - Zahlwort – Pronomen*. Von Albert Debrunner und
Jacob Wackernagel.

Göttingen 1930, pp. 387f. Cp. also p. 582.

Am So., 28. Juli 2019 um 06:50 Uhr schrieb Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info>:

>
> https://sanskritdocuments.org/learning_tools/ashtadhyayi/vyakhya/6/6.3.76.htm
>
>
> एकेन हेतुना विंशतिर्न भवतीत्यर्थः। एकान्नविंशतिः, एकाद्नविंशतिरिति।
> अनुनासिकत्वे तदभावे च रूपम्। एकोनविंशतिरित्यर्थ इति। "पर्यवस्यती"ति शेषः। एकेन
> ऊनेति विग्रहः। "पूर्वसदृशे"ति समासः। सा चासौ विंशतिश्च।
>
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 5:09 AM Harry Spier via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
>> Whitney in his grammar (section 477 b) gives this exact example "A
>> case-form of a smaller number, genarally eka one is connect by na not with
>> a larger number from which it is to be deducted: thus, . . . .;most often
>> ekān (i.e. ekāt, irregular ablative for ekasmāt) na viṁśatiḥ 19· . . ."
>>
>> Harry Spier .
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 7:27 PM Arlo Griffiths via INDOLOGY <
>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Dr. Paturi,
>>>
>>> On ekānnaviṁśati = nineteen, see Pāṇini, Aṣṭādhyāyī, 6.3.76 (ekādiś
>>> caikasya cāduk).
>>>
>>> Dear Dr. Patte,
>>>
>>> I don't understand your passage, but rather doubt that it can be
>>> explained in the light of how the word ekānnaviṁśati is formed. Since the
>>> proper ablative of eka is ekasmāt, I don't think ekānnaviṁśati is to be
>>> analyzed in the way you imagine. (Alas I don't understand the commentaries
>>> on Aṣṭ. 6.3.76 well enough to be able to to tell how the word ekānnaviṁśati
>>> is traditionally explained.)
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Arlo Griffiths
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info> on behalf of
>>> François Patte via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 27, 2019 9:08 PM
>>> *To:* Indology <indology at list.indology.info>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] grammar question
>>>
>>> Le 27/07/2019 à 20:06, Nagaraj Paturi a écrit :
>>> > Are you talking about ekōnavimśati = ēka + ūna +  vimśati ? = 19
>>>
>>> No! ekād (ablative) na viṃśati
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
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