Re: [INDOLOGY] Yamnaya’s DNA

Wed Dec 18 22:05:27 UTC 2019

The links I posted do not present all the messages posted on the list. This was the last message.

https://groups.io/g/Indo-Eurasian-Research/message/17565

For other messages, one will have to scroll message by message. 

Thanks

Regards,

Palaniappan

From: INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info> on behalf of Indology List <indology at list.indology.info>
Reply-To: Sudalaimuthu Palaniappant <palaniappa at aol.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 at 2:10 PM
To: <tiziana.lorenzetti at libero.it>
Cc: Indology List <indology at list.indology.info>
Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Yamnaya’s DNA

You can find discussions about the two recent papers in the Indo-Eurasian Research list (https://groups.io/g/Indo-Eurasian-Research) at the links below.

https://groups.io/g/Indo-Eurasian-Research/topic/most_important_paper_ever/37581428?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,37581428 

https://groups.io/g/Indo-Eurasian-Research/topic/from_ancient_ancestral_south/37581444?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,37581444 

Regards,

Palaniappan

On Dec 17, 2019, at 1:35 PM, tiziana via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

Thank you dear colleague for providing this new article!

 Tiziana

Il 17 dicembre 2019 alle 20.17 "Hock, Hans Henrich" <hhhock at illinois.edu> ha scritto: 

Dear Colleague and Colleagues, 

As shown by the following article, based on ancient DNA, research does indeed keep going; where Reich, in his book, only infers a migration from the steppes, this article provides actual evidence and arguments. And no doubt, given the rapid developments in palaeogenomics, it is not unreasonable to expect that these findings, too, will be superseded by additional evidence and arguments. 

Vagheesh M. Narasimhan et al. 2018. Genomic formation of South and Central Asia. BioRxiv Preprint, 31 March 2018. http://dx.doi.org/10.1101/292581 

My 2¢’s worth, 

Hans Henrich Hock 

On 15 Dec2019, at 03:41, tiziana via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info> wrote: 

Dear All, 

forgive me if my previous message has bored or peeved off some of you. It was not my intention to re-open a debate. I do believe that Reich's book deserves to be given a look-in because it is not a personal work of his, but the fruit of an international project, in which hundreds of geneticists and archaeologists (from many countries) have been involved. I am of the opinion that genetics can tell us a lot. Although ‘science is an open-ended process’ (as the esteemed colleague Dan wrote, whom I thank for his kind reply), certain evidence such as the migration of the pastoral Yamnaya to Europe and Northern India are  ‘almost certain’ (see Reich, Science in ‘The Economic Times’ Oct 12, 2019, p. 2) and definitive (Reich 2018, p. 198). Yamnaya’s DNA is there and nothing can change this evidence, although, regarding other topics, there is a lot that remains to be discovered. 

But in the end, I don’t want to convince anybody. 

Best Wishes, 

Tiziana Lorenzetti 

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