Re: [INDOLOGY] Yamnaya’s DNA

[Sudalaimuthu Palaniappant]

You can find discussions about the two recent papers in the Indo-Eurasian Research list (https://groups.io/g/Indo-Eurasian-Research <https://groups.io/g/Indo-Eurasian-Research>) at the links below.
https://groups.io/g/Indo-Eurasian-Research/topic/most_important_paper_ever/37581428?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,37581428 <https://groups.io/g/Indo-Eurasian-Research/topic/most_important_paper_ever/37581428?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate/sticky,,,20,2,20,37581428> 
https://groups.io/g/Indo-Eurasian-Research/topic/from_ancient_ancestral_south/37581444?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,37581444 <https://groups.io/g/Indo-Eurasian-Research/topic/from_ancient_ancestral_south/37581444?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate/sticky,,,20,2,20,37581444> 

Regards,
Palaniappan

> On Dec 17, 2019, at 1:35 PM, tiziana via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
> 
> Thank you dear colleague for providing this new article!
> 
>  Tiziana
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>> Il 17 dicembre 2019 alle 20.17 "Hock, Hans Henrich" <hhhock at illinois.edu> ha scritto: 
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>> Dear Colleague and Colleagues,
>> 
>> As shown by the following article, based on ancient DNA, research does indeed keep going; where Reich, in his book, only infers a migration from the steppes, this article provides actual evidence and arguments. And no doubt, given the rapid developments in palaeogenomics, it is not unreasonable to expect that these findings, too, will be superseded by additional evidence and arguments.
>> 
>> Vagheesh M. Narasimhan et al. 2018. Genomic formation of South and Central Asia. BioRxiv Preprint, 31 March 2018. http://dx.doi.org/10.1101/292581 <http://dx.doi.org/10.1101/292581>
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>> My 2¢’s worth,
>> 
>> Hans Henrich Hock
>> 
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>>> On 15 Dec2019, at 03:41, tiziana via INDOLOGY < indology at list.indology.info <mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> wrote:
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>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>> forgive me if my previous message has bored or peeved off some of you. It was not my intention to re-open a debate. I do believe that Reich's book deserves to be given a look-in because it is not a personal work of his, but the fruit of an international project, in which hundreds of geneticists and archaeologists (from many countries) have been involved. I am of the opinion that genetics can tell us a lot. Although ‘science is an open-ended process’ (as the esteemed colleague Dan wrote, whom I thank for his kind reply), certain evidence such as the migration of the pastoral Yamnaya to Europe and Northern India are  ‘almost certain’ (see Reich, Science in ‘The Economic Times’ Oct 12, 2019, p. 2) and definitive (Reich 2018, p. 198). Yamnaya’s DNA is there and nothing can change this evidence, although, regarding other topics, there is a lot that remains to be discovered.
>>> But in the end, I don’t want to convince anybody.
>>> Best Wishes,
>>> Tiziana Lorenzetti
>>> 
>>> 
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