[INDOLOGY] Garuda's resolution

Thu Sep 13 14:02:20 UTC 2018

Great thanks, Christophe.

I have found Tripathi's edition of the Suparnadhyaya:

https://archive.org/stream/SuparnaAdhyayaCommentaryJayaSwamyEd.GayaCharanTripathiDramaOfVedicAge/Suparna%20Adhyaya%20Commentary%20Jaya%20Swamy%20Ed.%20Gaya%20Charan%20Tripathi%20%28Drama%20of%20Vedic%20Age%29#page/n0

What catches my interest is that Astikaparvan's Indra while warning Garuda
against offering the Soma [to the serpents] says that they would then expel
[prabādheyur] the giver. In the Suparnadhyaya  - if the serpents (sarpāḥ)
are given [even on] drop [of Soma] they would make him [Garuda]
people-less [ajanam]. 'Expulsion' made into 'genocide'? If so - what could
be the reason for this change? For such reinforcement in the meaning of the
key phrase?

Thanks again,

Artur Karp

2018-09-12 9:32 GMT+02:00 Christophe Vielle <christophe.vielle at uclouvain.be>
:

> The snakes (to whom Garuḍa is ready to bring the stolen Soma).
> See the story as told in the late Vedic metrical play Suparṇādhyāya, sūkta
> 14, varga 28, v. 10,
> ed. and transl. Gaya Charan Tripathi (New Delhi: Nat.Mis.Mss and
> DKPrintworld, 2016), pp. 252 (critically restored text), 295 (transl.)
> induṃ cet sarpāḥ pāsyanti tvayā dattaṃ vihaṅgama |
> ajanaṃ te kariṣyanti tan na sādhu bhaviṣyati ||10||
> [Indra to Garuḍa]
> “In case the snakes [are allowed to] drink the Soma (= amṛtam) [bought by
> you and] given to them, [[o Bird]], they will make a clean sweep of all
> human beings [on earth]. This [surely] wouldn't be nice.”
> And in sūkta 15, varga 29, v. 6, Indra turning to Garuḍa (who has visited
> the serpents, but has not given them the Sma):
> “I have excelled all my ennemies in might. Because of my might I am all in
> this (i.e. overlord of this) world. How did you [dare to] take away by
> force the Soma which is pressed [especially] for such a mightier than
> mighty [person] like me.”
> So one can infer that the soma provides this almightiness.
>
> Le 11 sept. 2018 à 21:14, Artur Karp via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> a écrit :
>
> Dear List Memebers,
>
> First of all: my thanks to all who gave me their time and answered my
> query - preventing me from commiting a grave error. To Roland Steiner, Hans
> Henrich Hock, David and Nancy Reigle, Tracy Coleman.
>
> Now, my second question ---
>
> In Mbh I, 30.7c-e Indra says (to Garuda):
>
> 01.030.007c na kāryaṃ tava somena mama somaḥ pradīyatām
> 01.030.007e asmāṃs te hi prabādheyur yebhyo dadyād bhavān imam
>
> VanBuitenen 1973: 90: "If you have no need for the soma, return the soma
> to me. For those to whom you may give it will forever best us".
>
> [ad 'best':  Monier-Williams has several other - sort of 'sharper' -
> meanings for pra-bādh: to repel, drive away, keep off (Mbh); to torment,
> vex, hurt, injure, annoy.
>
> By the way - Kalyanov (I value his pioneering translation immensely) 1950:
> 103: "Yesli ty ne nameren vospol'zovat'sya somoy, to day yeyo mne. Ibo te,
> kotorym sobirayesh'sya dat' yeyo, budut vredit' nam". 'Budut vredit' nam' -
> 'shall injure us'; no 'forever'.]
>
> *Whom the myth makers may have in mind when they speak about those who
> "will forever best us"? *
>
> I'd be grateful if the comments were directed to the List, not to my
> private e-mail address.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Artur Karp (M.A.)
> Senior Lecturer in Sanskrit and Pali (ret.)
> South Asian Studies Department
> University of Warsaw
>
>
>
> 2018-09-10 7:47 GMT+02:00 Artur Karp <karp at uw.edu.pl>:
>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> In Mbh I, 30.8 *b* Garuda says:
>>
>> na dāsyāmi samādātuṃ somaṃ kasmaicidapyaham
>>
>> *kasmaicid* - (to) *whom*?
>>
>> Who is going to be excluded?
>>
>> Your opinion, please?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Artur Karp
>>
>
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