[INDOLOGY] sha and kha

Thu Sep 13 02:18:45 UTC 2018

Dear Jonathan and colleagues,

Concerning* kh* / *ṣ*, cf. Weber, *Über ein zum Weissen Yajus gehöriges
phonetisches Compendium, das Pratijnâsûtra* 1872: 84~85; Pischel § 265;
Oertel, *The Syntax of Cases in the Narrative and Descriptive Prose of the
Brāhmaṇas*, I. *The Disjunct Use of Cases *1926: 56, § 29, ex. 6; AiGr I,
p. 136-137, Nachträge p. 75; *Vedic Variants* II § 295; Renou, Gr, p. 4;
Allen, *Phonetics in Ancient India *1953: 56; Bloch/Master p. 73;
Handurukande 1967: xiii; Kuiper, *Gopālakelicandrikā* 1987: 152~154 ( “the
old North indian tradition” “a common interchange arising from Rājasthānī
speech”); BHSD, p. 532, *śeṣita* (für *śekhita*); Masato Kobayashi, *Historical
Phonology of Old Indo-Aryan Consonants*, 2004: 60 (“/s./ and /kh/ are often
confused in some manuscripts and in later Indo-Aryan languages”); cf. also *A
Dictinaray of Old Marathi* (abbr. DOM) dokha  < Skt. doṣa; viṣaya: DOM:/cf.
vikhaya; a-namīkha  : DOM: “without blinking, vigilantly" < animiṣa;
agha-markhaṇa /Skt. aghamarṣṇa etc. etc.

Seishi Karashima

2018-09-12 23:35 GMT+09:00 Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info>:

> Dear Jonathan,
>
>      As Professor Girish Jha described, the change of ṣa to kha, except in
> conjuncts with ṭa-varga [ष: खष्टुमृते], is prescribed by the Prātiśākhya of
> the Śukla-Yajurveda and seen in the recitation of this Veda till today.
> This also results in variation like pāṣaṇḍa/pākhaṇḍa.  Certainly, a
> wide-spread dialectal feature.
>
> Madhav M. Deshpande
> Professor Emeritus
> Sanskrit and Linguistics
> University of Michigan
> [Residence: Campbell, California]
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 6:41 AM Arlo Griffiths via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
>>
>> There is frequent reference to the same phenomenon in some of Michael
>> Witzel's "Materials on Vedic Śākhās", his series of articles published in
>> various journals in the 1970s-1990s.
>>
>>
>> Arlo Griffiths
>>
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>> *From:* INDOLOGY <indology-bounces at list.indology.info> on behalf of
>> Jonathan Silk via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2018 12:14 PM
>> *To:* jhakgirish
>> *Cc:* bvparishat at googlegroups.com; Indology
>> *Subject:* Re: [INDOLOGY] {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} sha and kha
>>
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> I am very interested in this equivalence, because what I remember having
>> learned (I am not sure now whether this is the right word) that kha/ṣa
>> "confusion" was a characteristic of Nepalese manuscripts, and that they
>> were to be considered the same (I perhaps learned this from John Brough's
>> lengthy review of Edgerton's Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit Grammar and
>> Dictionary, if memory serves...). But now it appears that this is not a
>> "quirk" of Nepalese scribes but an instance of a wider phonologically
>> motivated fusion?
>>
>> Curious, Jonathan Silk
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 6:51 AM, jhakgirish via INDOLOGY <
>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
>> Dear colleagues
>> Sorry for the mistake due to haste.Both snushaa and snokhaa have the
>> meaning
>> daughter-in-law and not grand daughter.
>> Girish K.Jha
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: jhakgirish <jhakgirish at gmail.com>
>> Date: 9/12/18 10:16 AM (GMT+05:30)
>> To: Indology <indology at list.indology.info>, bvparishat at googlegroups.com
>> Subject: {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} sha and kha
>>
>> Dear colleaguesThere is a sutra in Shukla yajuh praatishaakhya i.e." shah
>> khah tumrite" It means retroflex sha is pronounced as kha except combined
>> with the group t(tavarga).Hence in Shuklayajurveda it is pronouncedas kha.
>> But in kashta,vishnu,etc. It is pronounced as sha.Almost all over India it
>> is pronounced as kha in Shuklayajusha. I would like to mention that in our
>> Mithila(North Bihar) retroflex sha is not only pronounced in Shuklayajusha
>> but in ClassicalSanskrit too pronounced as kha and also inMaithili
>> Language( a modern Indo-Aryan).It would not be out of the context what I
>> would say.It has been coming from the Indo-European period.There is a
>> Russian parallel "snokhaa" which resembles Sanskrit "snushaa" but both have
>> the same meaning i.e.grand daughter.RegardsGirish K.JhaRetd.
>> Univ.ProfessorDept of SanskritPatna UniversityPatna:India
>> 800005(Residence-Kolkata:India)Sent from my Samsung Galaxy
>> smartphone.-------- Original message --------From: V Subrahmanian <
>> v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> Date: 9/12/18 7:06 AM  (GMT+05:30) To:
>> BHARATIYA VIDVAT <bvparishat at googlegroups.com> Subject: Re:
>> {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} Re: पुरुषसूक्तम् -- शुक्ल यजुर्वेद On Wed, Sep 12,
>> 2018 at 6:23 AM Shashi Joshi <shashikgp at gmail.com> wrote:Interestingly
>> this same ष ---> ख pronunciation transition is seen in Rajasthan. My
>> grandfather would say words likeखडयन्त्र (षड्यन्त्र )पुख्य (पुष्य
>> नक्षत्र)सुखेण (सुषेण in Hanuman Chalisa)लक्ष्मी becoming लकुमी is common in
>> Kannada poetry.  ಏನು ಧನ್ಯಳೋ ಲಕುಮಿSubmitted by shreekant.mishrikoti on Tue,
>> 06/01/2009 - 03:19(ರಾಗ ತೋಡಿ ಅಟತಾಳ)ಏನು ಧನ್ಯಳೋ ಲಕುಮಿಎಂಥ ಮಾನ್ಯಳೋಸಾನುರಾಗದಿಂದ
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