[INDOLOGY] Identifying a verse

Tyler Williams tylerwwilliams at gmail.com
Mon Nov 6 18:05:52 UTC 2017


Interesting! Thank you for these references.

Best,
Tyler


On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 7:24 AM, Klaus Karttunen via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

> Still more precisely, Anvār-i Suhailī is Persian version (once removed) of
> Ibn al-Muqaffa’’s Arabic Kalila wa Dimna, which is based on Burzōe’s lost
> Middle Persian translation of the Pañcatantra. The story in question is the
> last in the fifth chapter of the KwD (no. 37 in Chauvin’s numbering). In
> Pañcatantra it is 1, 11 of Edgerton, 1, 17 of the Tantrākhyāyika, and 1, 28
> of Pūrṇabhadra. With John of Capua it entered European literature, thus
> e.g. La Fontaine 9, 1 “Le dépositaire infidèle” is a new version of the
> same. In Anvār-i S. it is the last (28th) story of the first book in
> Wollaston’s translation.
>
> Best,
> Klaus
>
> Klaus Karttunen
> South Asian and Indoeuropean Studies
> Asian and African Studies, Department of World Cultures
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>
>
>
> On 06 Nov 2017, at 13:38, Dermot Killingley via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
> The Persian version mentioned by Tyler is more precisely a version of the
> one in
> Purnabhadra's Pancatantra, Book I.
>
> Dermot Killingley
>
> On 5 Nov 2017 at 20:40, Tyler Williams via INDOLOGY wrote:
>
> (In the Persian version, a merchant leaves an amount of iron with a
> neighbor, who sells it,
> telling the merchant that it has been eaten by mice. The merchant kidnaps
> the man's son,
> and tells him that a hawk carried the boy off. The punchline is the same:
> in a town where
> mice can eat iron, certainly a hawk can pick up a boy.)
>
> Best,
> TWW
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Tyler Williams <tylerwwilliams at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>    Dear Greg,
>
>    This story does indeed appear in the Kathasaritasagara, and in the
> Persian Anvar-i
>    Suhaili. Sorry that I don't have the exact reference.
>
>    Best,
>    Tyler
>
>
>
>    On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Greg Bailey via INDOLOGY
>    <indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>    Dear Lost,
>
>    A friend who is not on the list asked me for some information about
> this
>    brief story which he believes may be expressed in a few ´slokas. It
> strikes
>    me that it may come from somewhere in the Kath?sarits?gara. Any
>    suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
>
>    I am writing to get some reference to a Sanskrit stanza (Shloka) which
>    relates to an ancient Indian story. To put this in context the story
>    goes as follows:
>
>    An itinerant trader leaves a bowl made of gold for safe-keeping with a
>    friend, to look after it while he is away. On his return, the trader
>    finds that the friend had substituted the bowl to one of brass. The
>    trader realizes that he had been cheated but says nothing. Years later
>    the friend asks the trader to teach his son the art of trading. The
>    trader takes the son to his home. A few years later, the friend comes
>    to pick his son, but finds to his horror the son tied to a tree like a
>    monkey and trained to act like one. Aghast, the friend asks what
>    happened. And the trader replies, "Just like gold can turn to brass, so
>    can a boy turn to a monkey".
>
>    There is, I believe, a Sanskrit shloka which tells this story in verse.
>    I am looking for a reference to the Sanskrit text.
>
>    Cheers,
>
>    Greg Bailey
>
>
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