Re: [INDOLOGY] chinese translation of Nāgārjuna's Prajñāmūlaśāstraṭīkā

Tieken, H.J.H. H.J.H.Tieken at
Mon Jul 3 14:02:07 UTC 2017

Dear Matthew and Jonathan, Thank you very much for the information. As I understand it now, the poem quoted by Chintaharan Chakravarti (who refers to Giles, pp. 119-20) is not part of Xu Gan's Chong-lun but probably one of the four poems which are extant of the poet Xu Gan (Makeham, p. 2). I suppose they were composed according to an indigenous Chinese tradition and are therefore better left out of consideration in a search for possible sources of inspiration for Kālidāsa's Meghadūta.

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Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] chinese translation of Nāgārjuna's Prajñāmūlaśāstraṭīkā

Beste Herman,

Als wij vanuit het volgende kunnen leren, de "Prajñāmūlaśāstraṭīkā" is eigenlijk de Zhonglun, de chinese vertaling van Nāgārjuna's MMK met een commentaar van *Piṅgala. Vide: Samuel Beal, "The Chong-lun sūtra or Prajñāmūlaśāstraṭīkā of Nāgārjuna", IA 10, 1881, 87-89. Maar, er is hier een verwarring: Als wij in Wikipedia kunnen lezen: "Xu Gan (170 - 217) was a philosopher and poet of the late Han Dynasty<>....He is best known in the West for his discourse on the relationship between the names and actualities, preserved in his treatise Zhonglun<>, the Balanced Discourses." In weerwil van hetzelfde titel, dit is niet hetzelfde werk als die van Nāgārjuna. U kunt hier verder vinden:

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On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <indology at<mailto:indology at>> wrote:

Dear list members,
In a passage dealing with possible sources of inspiration of Kālidāsa's Meghadūta Chintaharan Chakravarti (Indian Historical Quarterly 3 (1927), pp. 286 ff) mentions a certain Hsū Kan (196-221 AD), who in his Chinese translation of Nāgārjuna's Prajñāmūlaśāstraṭīkā describes a woman who requests a cloud to pass on a message to her far-away husband. I would like to know where I can find more information about this translator Hsū Kan, in particular his date and if something is known about his knowledge of Sanskrit Kāvya literature.
Best, Herman

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