Re: [INDOLOGY] chinese translation of Nāgārjuna's Prajñāmūlaśāstraṭīkā

[Tieken, H.J.H.]

Dear Matthew and Jonathan, Thank you very much for the information. As I understand it now, the poem quoted by Chintaharan Chakravarti (who refers to Giles, pp. 119-20) is not part of Xu Gan's Chong-lun but probably one of the four poems which are extant of the poet Xu Gan (Makeham, p. 2). I suppose they were composed according to an indigenous Chinese tradition and are therefore better left out of consideration in a search for possible sources of inspiration for Kālidāsa's Meghadūta.
Herman

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Van: Jonathan Silk [kauzeya at gmail.com]
Verzonden: maandag 3 juli 2017 11:03
Aan: Tieken, H.J.H.
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Onderwerp: Re: [INDOLOGY] chinese translation of Nāgārjuna's Prajñāmūlaśāstraṭīkā

Beste Herman,

Als wij vanuit het volgende kunnen leren, de "Prajñāmūlaśāstraṭīkā" is eigenlijk de Zhonglun, de chinese vertaling van Nāgārjuna's MMK met een commentaar van *Piṅgala. Vide: Samuel Beal, "The Chong-lun sūtra or Prajñāmūlaśāstraṭīkā of Nāgārjuna", IA 10, 1881, 87-89. Maar, er is hier een verwarring: Als wij in Wikipedia kunnen lezen: "Xu Gan (170 - 217) was a philosopher and poet of the late Han Dynasty<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Dynasty>....He is best known in the West for his discourse on the relationship between the names and actualities, preserved in his treatise Zhonglun<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zhonglun&action=edit&redlink=1>, the Balanced Discourses." In weerwil van hetzelfde titel, dit is niet hetzelfde werk als die van Nāgārjuna. U kunt hier verder vinden: https://openresearch-repository.anu.edu.au/bitstream/1885/10344/2/02Whole_Makeham.pdf

Excuses voor mijn slechte nederlands!

Jonathan

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Tieken, H.J.H. via INDOLOGY <indology at list.indology.info<mailto:indology at list.indology.info>> wrote:

Dear list members,
In a passage dealing with possible sources of inspiration of Kālidāsa's Meghadūta Chintaharan Chakravarti (Indian Historical Quarterly 3 (1927), pp. 286 ff) mentions a certain Hsū Kan (196-221 AD), who in his Chinese translation of Nāgārjuna's Prajñāmūlaśāstraṭīkā describes a woman who requests a cloud to pass on a message to her far-away husband. I would like to know where I can find more information about this translator Hsū Kan, in particular his date and if something is known about his knowledge of Sanskrit Kāvya literature.
Best, Herman



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